Wheel options....what do they weigh?

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I haven't found anywhere information about the weights of the different wheel options the SE has. I don't know if they are w/i a pound or two of each other or if there are bigger differences.
If I were buying an ICE Mini I'd want to know the unsprung weight at each corner. For the SE I'd like to know in the interest in keeping the total weight of the car as low as possible.
Anybody have info about this?
 
Motoring File says of the MINI Cooper SE's Power Spoke wheels:
> The design of the wheels not only allows for the best aero of any MINI wheel it also is the lightest 17” offered.
> In person those wheels are ridiculousness and fantastic simultaneously.

I ordered the plastic-clad Power Spoke wheels on my lost-in-shipment SE (it was so long ago they were still Corona Spoke wheels), but I have purchased some lightly used 16" MINI Loop Spoke wheels that I'll use most of the time because I would hate to lose the Energetic Yellow paint around the circumference of the Power Spoke wheels to a greedy concrete curb.
 
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Another question relating to wheels is the aerodynamic properties. This article on Tesla aero wheel covers indicate it can make a noticeable difference in range. Makes one wonder if the SE power/electric wheels have similar characteristics.
 
idrw said:
I think it was on facebook that I saw that the standard revolite wheels+tires+tpms is 32 pounds total..

You can also check out this link
https://www.motoringalliance.com/articles/wheel-weights-3rd-generation.44/
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Thanks for this info. It goes back to '15 but still relevant.
The 16" Loop spoke (available on the Signature spec only) is the lightest in that group by an avg of 4-5 lbs. 16" tires will (generally) be a few pounds lighter that 17's.
The rolling resistance difference between the contact patch of a 16" tire and a 17" tire is insignificant , I'm guessing, compared to the different treads and compounds of tires in those sizes.
 
KeninFL said:
Thanks for this info. It goes back to '15 but still relevant.
The 16" Loop spoke (available on the Signature spec only) is the lightest in that group by an avg of 4-5 lbs. 16" tires will (generally) be a few pounds lighter that 17's.
The rolling resistance difference between the contact patch of a 16" tire and a 17" tire is insignificant , I'm guessing, compared to the different treads and compounds of tires in those sizes.
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If you want the absolute lightest, go for the 15 inch 492 heli spoke which is 11 pounds with 185/65R15 tires. Some of those tires are about 15-16 pounds bringing the total weight to ~27 pounds with a smaller contact patch, much improved ride and obvious improvement in range.
 
Puppethead said:
Another question relating to wheels is the aerodynamic properties. This article on Tesla aero wheel covers indicate it can make a noticeable difference in range. Makes one wonder if the SE power/electric wheels have similar characteristics.
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As a rule of thumb: the flatter the wheel surface is from rim to hub, the less air resistance/turbulance it will create. So, basically a flat (picture a thin manhole cover) would be the most "aero" - but for most people the least aesthetically pleasing.
 
idrw said:
If you want the absolute lightest, go for the 15 inch 492 heli spoke which is 11 pounds with 185/65R15 tires. Some of those tires are about 15-16 pounds bringing the total weight to ~27 pounds with a smaller contact patch, much improved ride and obvious improvement in range.
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I don't and I would caution going that route. The car is set up for 16 & 17 inch wheels. Going bigger or smaller makes it necessary to mod the suspension/alignment. If I were tracking a MINI, of course, but I'd get a JCW for that not an SE.
 
KeninFL said:
I don't and I would caution going that route. The car is set up for 16 & 17 inch wheels. Going bigger or smaller makes it necessary to mod the suspension/alignment. If I were tracking a MINI, of course, but I'd get a JCW for that not an SE.
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Funny you'd say that. I have a '22 se that I race in our local SCCA solo events. I'm in GS class with the only modification being different tires. I always beat the jcw which is much more modified and has wider tires. The se is amazing, on a short course at least, and with the right performance tires.
 
Giosan said:
Funny you'd say that. I have a '22 se that I race in our local SCCA solo events. I'm in GS class with the only modification being different tires. I always beat the jcw which is much more modified and has wider tires. The se is amazing, on a short course at least, and with the right performance tires.
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Wow, that post is two years ago. I had to reread the thread to see what I was responding to. The context for my reply then was the weight of different rims when idrw mentioned 15 inch heli spokes. I posted I wouldn't use them for the reason I mentioned for a street car. For the track, whatever one's preference is (w/i track-competition rules & regs) is ok by me. If I had been responding to track use for a Mini, I would have said I wouldn't use my SE, not because it wouldn't be competitive, but because I want three pedals on a track. The fastest times around a circuit to me are not as important as what you have to do as a driver on it. But that too is a preference.
Enjoy your SE.
 
What is the weight and aerodynamics of the black pedal spoke? I have a mini se on order with this set, and I have this sinking fear I'm going to only go half as far as everyone else. (not really, but a little bit) Is this the rarest of all the Mini Cooper Se wheel types? Do only 2 of us have it? :)
 
Unfortunately I don't think anyone ever compiled a list of MINI wheels and their weights. It would be nice to have a table of that, plus common tires. Sometimes you can find tire weights from manufacturer websites.

I wouldn't worry too much about the wheels. My impression is you should see official range using any wheels, with the aerodynamic ones giving you longer range. In my case, my 2021 SE has an official range of 110 miles, but with the Power Spoke wheels I'm getting over 150 miles range (but that may not be all due to wheels).
 
TFLEV did some range tests (mostly 75MPH) using aftermarket wheels (Michelin Crossclimate 2 4 season) vs 17" Power Spoke (Hankook Ventus S1 evo3 summer). The 4 season tires were about 4.02mi/kWh (116.2mi to dead) vs 4.85mi/kWh (134.6 mi to 4%) on the summer tires or a 20.6% increase in efficiency.

Depending on the driving conditions, the 0% limp mode can still squeeze out 3-20 miles of extra range before completely shutting down. See 26:34 of carwow UK for reference (154 miles actual).

 
And basically a winter tire that offers a surprisingly adaptable compound that doesn’t wear out in the summer… It’s not an all season tire, it’s an all conditions tire.
 
All winter design tires wear much faster in summer conditions bc compound they build is much softer than all season tires .period .
 
SameGuy said:
And basically a winter tire that offers a surprisingly adaptable compound that doesn’t wear out in the summer… It’s not an all season tire, it’s an all conditions tire.
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The Michelin Cross Climate 2 in the video above, along with the Kumho Solus, Toyo Celsius, Nokian WR G4, and others, are not “all season” tires. They are a new generation the manufacturers call “all weather” tires. They are winter-rated tires — with the “mountain-snowflake” symbol required for them to be legal on Quebec roads from December 1 to March 15 — but the compound allows them to perform like all season tires during the warm season. They don’t wear quicker than regular all season tires during summer.

We’ve had a set of Kumho Solus on mom’s car for five years now, all year long, and at 60,000 km they still have 6/32 of tread (they come with a 100,000 km treadwear warranty).
 
SameGuy said:
The Michelin Cross Climate 2 in the video above, along with the Kumho Solus, Toyo Celsius, Nokian WR G4, and others, are not “all season” tires. They are a new generation the manufacturers call “all weather” tires. They are winter-rated tires — with the “mountain-snowflake” symbol required for them to be legal on Quebec roads from December 1 to March 15 — but the compound allows them to perform like all season tires during the warm season. They don’t wear quicker than regular all season tires during summer.

We’ve had a set of Kumho Solus on mom’s car for five years now, all year long, and at 60,000 km they still have 6/32 of tread (they come with a 100,000 km treadwear warranty).
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I was referring to strictly winter tires like you said as they not wearing in summer not true. is different story about all weather tires as you can use them all year around that was my point . I’m going with SE for Nokian WRG 4 and in previous post I was asking for opinion about them.
 
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