No more lifetime EV battery warranty for 2020 Kona Electric??

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by BlueKonaEV, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

  2. Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    Yup, I read this a while ago. The US warranty still exceeds that available in other countries.
     
  3. R P

    R P Well-Known Member

    In the US press release they highlight the battery heater as a new thing. I can't find the 2019 Cdn specs anymore, but thought we already had that. I know we have the Heat Pump, but not 100% sure about the battery heater. Can someone confirm that, or not?
     
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  4. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    Lucky for me and everyone else who bought the 2019 US Kona Electric..
     
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  5. Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    Yes, we have it. Canada got nearly everything. Our Ultimate specs and price is one of the best anywhere.
     
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  6. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    Only things missing - VESS silence button and folding mirrors both of which should have been available as at least an option. (we have LTE instead of WIFI)
     
  7. apu

    apu Active Member

    Actually the new Canadian Kona Electric Essential trim omits heat pump and battery heater.
     
  8. ForceEdge

    ForceEdge New Member

    Hmm..that’s kind of a big deal. I was waiting for the U.S 2020 Kona electric mainly for the battery warmer and winter mode...now this makes me think I should go for the 2019 version ( which doesn’t have either of those)with lifetime warranty on the battery.
     
  9. Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    I have never read the fine print but you might find that it makes little difference particularly if you swap cars out every few years.
     
  10. ForceEdge

    ForceEdge New Member

    To be honest I was actually looking to purchase it out right so that’s why I worry you know?
     
  11. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I guess it depends on how long you want to keep the car. I was planning on keeping mine in my name for a long time.. Planning on giving it to my daughter when she turns 16 in 9 years. By that time, the car may have 300k miles and potentially time for a new battery..
    If you only want to keep for under 150k miles, I don't think that there is a lot of reason to worry.. Looking at the Chevy Bolt which used LG batteries, I'm not aware of any major issues except for a few batteries on early Bolts with battery degradation or defects. Our batteries should last well above 150k miles before they fall to sub 70%.. Actually, without too much fast charging and depleting the battery frequently, they should last at least 300k to 500k miles before they degrade too much..
     
  12. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I doubt that this will happen. In the US, starting in 2020, VESS is mandatory on all electric vehicles and therefore, they won't allow you to turn it off. I'm not sure about Canada but Canadian cars are usually built to fairly similar specs than the US cars and so it won't likely happen in Canada either.
     
  13. Francois

    Francois Active Member

    I believe VESS became mandatory in Canada on July 2018.
     
  14. R P

    R P Well-Known Member

    So why don't Teslas have VESS? My son's M3 does not.
     
  15. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I believe that 2020 Tesla Models have it..
     
  16. R P

    R P Well-Known Member

    But if Canada required it in 2018, my son's M3 should already have it then.
     
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  17. electriceddy

    electriceddy Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Nov 7, 2019
  18. apu

    apu Active Member

    I do not believe the changes to regulation in the Canadian Motor vehicles safety act have occurred yet as per Transport Canada website:https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/acts-regulations/road-safety-initiatives-planned.html

    "Transport Canada sought input from interested Canadians on the proposed regulations(quiet vehicles regulation) through a public consultation period held in early 2018 through the Let's Talk Transportation platform. It is anticipated that there will be a formal consultation process of 75-days following pre-publication in the Canada Gazette, Part I, expected to take place in early 2020."

    Any VESS implementation up to this point has been purely manufacture voluntary. Its not a legal requirement. Owners of 2019 model Kona could unplug their VESS legally as any future regulation changes would not be retroactive.
     
  19. Francois

    Francois Active Member

    It's my bad. What began in July 2018 was people of Quebec getting fines for parking in front of a charging station and not charging. My apologies for the confusion.
     
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  20. 556x24

    556x24 New Member

    After six months I could not longer tolerate the VESS so I prepared to dismantle the nose section to get at it. I discovered after removing the screws across the top (under the hood) that I could warp/lever what appears to be a black trim strip "out" enough to visualize the VESS plug which I had tried to reach several times before. Now that I could see it, using a pair of long, needle-nose pliers I was able to reach the plug in the correct orientation to depress the release tab and pull it. The result: Instant silence! Now the car is whisper quiet without that annoying space-ship sound. The ding-ding backup sound is also disabled. I don't miss either. Granted, people can't hear the car coming up behind them in a parking area, but then, even with VESS on nobody ever acted like they heard it, and nobody ever got out of the way for it.
    Before anyone start about voiding warranties - maybe where you are, but not here. They can't void the battery warranty or get out of correcting a seal issue because a single plug has been removed.
    I have considered buying an inexpensive RFID switch with remote (like remote door locks use), and wire it into the VESS cable so I can turn VESS on or off using a remote for when the car needs to go in for service, but the car seldom needs to go in for service. I can always plug VESS back in when I need too.
    A much simpler approach would be to excise the middle section of the ABS trim strip which would allow complete access to the VESS box from above, then fabricate a ledge and clip system to the piece can be reattached and removed as desired.
     

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