110 or 114

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  1. Jim In Tucson

    Jim In Tucson Well-Known Member

    The original SE range was rated 110 EPA miles. When it came out, the 2022 SE received a bump up to 114 EPA mile range. Now I see that the 2023 is rated at 110 EPA. Any idea what is up?


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  3. bmartinez028

    bmartinez028 Active Member

    The 2023 is rated at 114 according to the EPA website.
     
  4. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    The air curtains that replaced the front fog lights starting with the 2022 model is what boosted the range from 110 miles to 114 miles.
     
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  5. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    In my 2019 letter to head designer Oliver Heilmer, begging to pay extra for a hood-scoop delete option, I tried to butter him up by including a close-up of the fog-light area. I wrote that the sculpting of that element was beautiful. I later found it ironic I chose the classic fog lights to praise because Mr. Heilmer had already decided to do away with them:

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  6. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    So you're the reason the fog lights are gone! :D
     
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  8. revorg

    revorg Well-Known Member

    :eek:
    I liked the foglights where they were. Facing forward!
     
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  9. Lokie

    Lokie New Member

    I’ve had my mini se for three weeks and have yet to see a full charge over 100 miles?
     
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  10. Jim In Tucson

    Jim In Tucson Well-Known Member

    From the MINI website…

    If EPA is 114, why does MINI use 110?

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  11. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    What!?! The MINI website isn't displaying the most up-to-date information? This is not news.
     
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  13. vader

    vader Well-Known Member

    You never will. The main thing to remember is that the displayed range is hideously low. You will still have around 30% left whilst going through 100miles (in sports mode). It really is that bad. Always use the battery percent as a gauge of range, never the GOM.
     
  14. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    If you drive slowly on multiple consecutive drives, the GOM will eventually get the idea and show a longer full-charge range. @vader's right, the battery percent read-out is much more meaningful.
     
  15. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    1 mile per percentage point. Ugh. Haven’t had to do metric conversion math on the fly in decades!
     
  16. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    To simplify mental gyrations, maybe try 3 km per every 2% SoC? That comes out to a range of 150 km (93 mi), which is somewhat conservative but probably better than the GOM.
     
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  17. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    Honestly, based on all the reports I read on this site, temperate season numbers are probably closer to 2km/SOC%.
     
  18. vader

    vader Well-Known Member

    If you live in a warm (ish) climate, then 2.5km/% is about right, especially around town. This is the ultimate (ie flatten the battery) range, so stop before you get there :) If you go with 2km/% in anything warmer than a "cold" climate, you should be fine and have plenty of buffer. I get about 220km at 110kph on the (flat) freeway in a warm climate if that helps.
     
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