Warm up a SE in cold weather ?

[Rexsio]

As my SE sitting in 65’ F . Indoor garage . I never warm up a car driving to 20’ F weather as I believe @a Puppethead can give a best answer driving SE in extreme Cold climate and covering 100000 miles . As winter here in NY getting colder 20 -15’ F. Driving 70 miles each way to CT. I have Always 50-40 miles range left over and in my destination I charge SE to 100% once I’m there bc my 50 miles range can’t get me home I drive on SPORT mode bc in my mind is only a way to drive that speedy GO CART teasing those monster SUVs whichcan’t keep up with SE specifically on a waiving roads .My tires are Nokians WRG -5 Remedy all weather tires 205/55/16 as the best tires I ever own .

 

[revorg]

And I'm at the other extreme. Most of my drives are less than 50 miles. I always plug in when I get home, and charge to 100% (firm member of the ABC club). I only use the pre-conditioning for longer trips in frigid weather. I always drive in Green Plus mode. In the summer, I never use the AC. In the winter, I seldom use the heat. I do use the steering wheel warmer when the temps drop below 20 degrees, and I only use the seat heater(s) when I have a passenger. I try to observe the speed limit (and traffic makes that difficult on multi-lane highways), and I prefer driving on secondary roads (blue highways). And yet, each drive is entertaining and enjoyable.

 

[Puppethead]

My SE is parked in a garage, and in the winter I try to climatize before leaving so I always have 100% SoC and 100% e-power. But my car sits unplugged outside all day long so when it's very cold (below about 10 ºF) my e-power will drop to 70% or lower (lowest ever was 30%). I don't worry about it because it doesn't seem to affect driving at all, other than restrict acceleration. The battery warms up from use, but when below 0 ºF it usually isn't enough to restore e-power on my 40-mile drive. I try to park in the sun to provide minor passive battery warming on the cold days when the SE is sitting outside, if there is sun.

I drive in mid mode and have my heat set to 68 ºF, but sometimes will switch to green mode which also reduces heat output. On very cold days (or windy or with lots of snow), even when I take the "green" navigation route instead of usual freeway route, I won't be able to get the 85 mile range I need for the day so I'll do a 30-60 minute level 2 charge mid-day at a nearby grocery store. That usually gives me an extra 15-20% SoC which is enough to get me home.

My winter tires are Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3s on 16" Revolite wheels.

 

[pictsidhe]

I'm down in NC, so I don't see proper cold temperatures. My car lives in a car port at home. My 'winter' tyres are Nokian WR-G4. I'd be tempted to run them all year if I was in say, NY... They have minimal range loss compared to stock 'kooks and far better range than Conti ECS02. I have found that doing a timed charge that ends at scheduled departure significantly increases winter range. Charging warms the battery...

 

[vader]

In the height of winter when it dips below 60F overnight, I would normally precondition the car so it is nice and warm when I get in. In all seriousness, we precondition more the other way. In the heat, we cool the car, and the battery will cool if it is plugged in (you can hear the fan).

Cold is not an issue here, but heat is. The battery likes being in the zone.

 

[MacMini34]

My SE is parked in a garage, and in the winter I try to climatize before leaving so I always have 100% SoC and 100% e-power. But my car sits unplugged outside all day long so when it's very cold (below about 10 ºF) my e-power will drop to 70% or lower (lowest ever was 30%). I don't worry about it because it doesn't seem to affect driving at all, other than restrict acceleration. The battery warms up from use, but when below 0 ºF it usually isn't enough to restore e-power on my 40-mile drive. I try to park in the sun to provide minor passive battery warming on the cold days when the SE is sitting outside, if there is sun.

I drive in mid mode and have my heat set to 68 ºF, but sometimes will switch to green mode which also reduces heat output. On very cold days (or windy or with lots of snow), even when I take the "green" navigation route instead of usual freeway route, I won't be able to get the 85 mile range I need for the day so I'll do a 30-60 minute level 2 charge mid-day at a nearby grocery store. That usually gives me an extra 15-20% SoC which is enough to get me home.

I'm trying to convince a potential buyer of an F56 SE on North American Motoring (NAM) that he doesn't need to worry about battery degradation on a 14k mile SE and how to be mindful of range. If I interpret this thread correctly you have put on some serious miles from a serious commute (85miles) and manage to do this commute in MN winters with a little charging boost along the way. Do you have 100k miles on the car? And if so perhaps you can allay the person on NAM that battery degradation (hopefully!) isn't an issue.

cheers
MacMini34

 

[teslarati97]

I'm trying to convince a potential buyer of an F56 SE on North American Motoring (NAM) that he doesn't need to worry about battery degradation on a 14k mile SE and how to be mindful of range. If I interpret this thread correctly you have put on some serious miles from a serious commute (85miles) and manage to do this commute in MN winters with a little charging boost along the way. Do you have 100k miles on the car? And if so perhaps you can allay the person on NAM that battery degradation (hopefully!) isn't an issue.

cheers
MacMini34

Tell him that ICE cars have mileage degradation of 20% within 2 years of use and nobody worries about it. Even worse in the winter, people who run their ICE vehicle for 30 minutes to get it all toasty warm experience 50%+ range loss!

 

[Puppethead]

Do you have 100k miles on the car? And if so perhaps you can allay the person on NAM that battery degradation (hopefully!) isn't an issue.

So close... I'm currently just over 98,500 miles on my 2021 SE. In my fifth Minnesota winter, and I charge to 100% every day. No sign of battery degradation, the GOM still shows over 110 miles range on a full charge when temps are above 32 ºF.