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I have a 2021 SE with only 12,400 miles on it that I'm considering selling. My state makes it more attractive to trade-in but I thought I would float the idea here first.
  • Signature trim (no sunroof, parking sensors, or heads-up display)
  • 17" OEM wheels (Signature comes with 16")
  • Black Mini center caps
  • Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires
  • ST X coilovers
  • Front grill converted to Cooper S
  • Rear hatch handle converted to Cooper S (OEM is dark gray and the S is black)
  • Smoked rear fog light covers
  • Smoked LED side markers
  • Side marker from base Cooper (gets rid of the yellow)
  • Black "S" badges on front and back
  • VIP Bike Rack kit installed and includes poles that screw into bumper
  • Garage kept
This car is in perfect shape. Zero rust as it never saw snow or salt. I used DC fast charging less than 10 times and level 2 charging less than 10 times too.

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You are going to take a big hit. BMW is offering over 10k as an incentive. I am deep under water with my loan. Fortunately I got the fed & state tax credits.
 
The $10K incentive is a lease credit. I guess that is really to mitigate the lower residuals that might happen because of the newer model.
 
JonR said:
I have a 2021 SE with only 12,400 miles on it that I'm considering selling. My state makes it more attractive to trade-in but I thought I would float the idea here first.
  • Signature trim (no sunroof, parking sensors, or heads-up display)
  • 17" OEM wheels (Signature comes with 16")
  • Black Mini center caps
  • Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires
  • ST X coilovers
  • Front grill converted to Cooper S
  • Rear hatch handle converted to Cooper S (OEM is dark gray and the S is black)
  • Smoked rear fog light covers
  • Smoked LED side markers
  • Side marker from base Cooper (gets rid of the yellow)
  • Black "S" badges on front and back
  • VIP Bike Rack kit installed and includes poles that screw into bumper
  • Garage kept
This car is in perfect shape. Zero rust as it never saw snow or salt. I used DC fast charging less than 10 times and level 2 charging less than 10 times too.

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You should add a State you are in if someone live close could be more attractive to sell/ buy without traveling and trade in you get better value of your car bc not so many buyers carry $20000-24000 cash to buy your car and usually dealers really don’t care what you add and improve your car
 
JonR said:
The $10K incentive is a lease credit. I guess that is really to mitigate the lower residuals that might happen because of the newer model.
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I was talking with one of the guys at the dealership the day the deals were announced. He said I should immediately sell my car to Carmax since they dont have wind of the deals yet. Put the cash I get in the bank. Then lease the new one. If I want keep it until the end and buy it with the cash and party with what's left over. I was too lazy to do it, or to add up the total of the payments. But on one dealership's site the lease price was knocked down about 11K from MSRP. Here is what I posted in the thread about my accident.
One Colorado dealer says "up to $19,000 in lease incentives & tax credits on the 2024 Mini electric."
The other says "lease for 135 mo 36 mo 0 down" MSRP $35,220. Elway Price $16,220."
I financed all but the $500 deposit i put down when I ordered the car. I am deep, very deep underwater right now if I don't take into account the $10,000 in tax credits I got.
 
I was toying with downsizing the other day and did some back of the envelope math on whats worth what. Anyway Carmax offered me 16000 for my 2022 Iconic trim, 11,000 miles excellent shape. KBB was predicting 20k. Previously I wasn't aware of the nose dive in EV values, just didn't care.

It seems about all the manufactures are incentivizing massively, at least 10k on the ID4 (plus the $7500 tax credit), 13k+ depending on dealer on the Ioniq 5 as Hyndai gives you the 7500 tax credit up front (The Ioniq is Korean built and not eligible for the federal tax credit, the ID4 is built in Tenn and is).

Anyway, the spouse says "Are you crazy, why are you thinking about a common SUV, the SE is unique, fun to drive, go take a nap" Dodged a bullet. :)
 
ColdCase said:
Anyway, the spouse says "Are you crazy, why are you thinking about a common SUV, the SE is unique, fun to drive, go take a nap" Dodged a bullet. :)
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I just spent the week riding around in a Kia EV6 and I've been in a couple other EVs, and I have to agree with your spouse. I don't know how many of us really realize how superior the driving experience of the SE is compared to most other EVs out there. I bet there isn't a more fun EV to drive, at least anything not in the supercar class.
 
Great specs - light weight without all the belly whistles, 17" wheels = good compromise between ride quality and steering sensitivity, ST X coilovers which I can attest do wonders for the road manners, nicely done trim details... stuff that 'normies' would be unlikely to appreciate. Plus a cool bike rack!
 
Years ago there weren't many choices for EVs. I was cross shopping the SE and the BMW i3s 120Ah BEV for an urban vehicle.

I somewhat miss the RWD driving feel, but the SE is still very good!
 
teslarati97 said:
Years ago there weren't many choices for EVs. I was cross shopping the SE and the BMW i3s 120Ah BEV for an urban vehicle.

I somewhat miss the RWD driving feel, but the SE is still very good!
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I considered the i3's wheels/tires to be EV overkill. Is it possible to put "regular" wheels of a smaller diameter on the i3s? If that worked, the car would be lower, the grip would be better, and it would still be lighter (quicker) than the MINI Cooper SE--with rear-wheel drive to boot (as it were)! Replacement tires would be easier to find, too.
 
insightman said:
I considered the i3's wheels/tires to be EV overkill. Is it possible to put "regular" wheels of a smaller diameter on the i3s? If that worked, the car would be lower, the grip would be better, and it would still be lighter (quicker) than the MINI Cooper SE--with rear-wheel drive to boot (as it were)! Replacement tires would be easier to find, too.
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That's a tough one with the tires because the i3 has a ridiculously small turning radius thanks to RWD and the lack of front wheel CV joints. Some i3s owners have used spacers for 225 width tires, but it still rubs against the wheel well.
 
Puppethead said:
I just spent the week riding around in a Kia EV6 and I've been in a couple other EVs, and I have to agree with your spouse. I don't know how many of us really realize how superior the driving experience of the SE is compared to most other EVs out there. I bet there isn't a more fun EV to drive, at least anything not in the supercar class.
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This is totally true in my experience, too. I had to borrow my wife’s Ioniq 5 for a long road trip recently, and while I enjoyed the HI5 on the highway, I really, really missed driving the SE around town. If I hadn’t needed to drive 1000 miles over the course of a day I would have taken the SE in a heartbeat. In the future I’m hoping a battery upgrade mod becomes available because I’d drop the cash on that to expand the use of the MINI without flinching.
 
Going on a bit of a road trip tomorrow to snag a deal at a Home Depot that's in a town just on the outside of my SE's warm-weather range, and I'd still rather do it in the SE than in the Subaru even though I will have to make a couple or three short charging stops.
 
Puppethead said:
I just spent the week riding around in a Kia EV6 and I've been in a couple other EVs, and I have to agree with your spouse. I don't know how many of us really realize how superior the driving experience of the SE is compared to most other EVs out there. I bet there isn't a more fun EV to drive, at least anything not in the supercar class.
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+1. I still find myself gravitating towards the SE for daily errands, at least when not being used. 35k on the odometer and still going stong. Our ID4 is great as a comfortable cruiser, yet far from offering the fun factor of the SE.
 
LittleWoods said:
This is totally true in my experience, too. I had to borrow my wife’s Ioniq 5 for a long road trip recently, and while I enjoyed the HI5 on the highway, I really, really missed driving the SE around town. If I hadn’t needed to drive 1000 miles over the course of a day I would have taken the SE in a heartbeat. In the future I’m hoping a battery upgrade mod becomes available because I’d drop the cash on that to expand the use of the MINI without flinching.
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I'm pretty sure I'll be keeping my SE long-term. Once the battery eventually dies, I will definitely be investigating fitting different modules inside it. At 22mo old, it's SOH is 96%, so that looks a long time away.
 
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