Read between the lines on what Porsche is saying about charging. Its beyond ridiculous. Its saying it will make a profit from the start but it will charge prices equivalent to gasoline prices. Its actually beyond outrageous.
1. Gasoline isn't profitable, never has been and certainly isn't with petrol subsidized to 150%.
2. With the amount of subsidy present the gas price isn't reasonable even if its just to do things like address deflation through a kind of tax imposition that also props up petrol- its not like gas is priced competitively. This this is like the fantastic line of BS that comes from the petrol people trying to say cheap gas matters from a competitive stand point against electrics (it doesn't not even remotely)- or interpreted that petrol isn't helpless beyond belief and that its not a total unjustified (for at least 50 years now) pure welfare case without a right to exist where its persistence is crime.
3. Porsche customers situated as they are generally don't have any issue with gas prices but its not like they aren't also more aware about financial issues considering the higher SES. If the Tesla which may charge little as 1/7 as much at the charger means in terms of their use of the vehicle the difference between what they would have purchased and the next rung or two up the vehicle ladder it means Porsche will lose even sales and its already saying with the Mission E for instance its not trying to compete- in part because it won't a have a competitive offering because its so far behind on the tech- even when Tesla gave away much of it.
4. This is Porsche showing especially after its useless purchase by the VW group that its just a petrol shill or front, that its nothing more than marketing tripe for petrol. Its like premium petrol retail consumption BS, its just a branding game. When Porsche continues to say such stupid things its the inescapable conclusion. Its not like they said we are going to use this built in margin advantage over gas, plus the draw of potentially slightly faster charging to build out their network as fast as possible. No, its not like they even have their own network they just have leased BS so they are faking it to begin with.
5. When someone does a Tesla roof and a couple power walls they will charge for 3-7cents a kwh (and lower as time goes on)- and that will put a huge dent in Porche's BS. When it costs $3.00 to fill up a Tesla (dropping as time goes on with a Moore's law decrement) to go 330 miles verses a Porsche say a Cayene at 22 mpg combined at in the US say at say $3.19 a gallon or about $50 or 16x as much to go the equivalent distance that will hit them. So say $47 per tank at maybe 2.66 tanks a month across 7 years will amount to 10.5-$11000 in savings.
Yep, more fail convincingly BS for VW. Funny thing is that for most people that invest in Tesla, even if Tesla were to somehow go under, will if Tesla still ultimately succeeds in its mission in pushing a quick enough transition- these investors will be more than compensated. the average investor will be many times over compensated on any losses even if they zero out on a Tesla investment. Think how much the POS W. admin cost the average American with all of its fraud, BS and malevolence and incompetence- most of it aimed at now essentially useless petrol (useless even then for 3 decades already prior it was already useless in real terms relative to better alternatives- yes even before viable solar/wind) I am pretty sure the W. Admin set most of us in the US back 400K-500K just in dollar terms but it also radically weakened the security of the US and the world. Nice if the W. Admin did something functional with missile defense, but that's about it.
Real issue in the US is the law has to start addressing money based crime and criminality and has to start addressing non contributing or radically net negative right side toll road welfare barons that were paid off long ago for any actual or supposed contributions. I think up to now the USG thought in cost terms that it was cheaper cost wise to let them steal billions than to lock them up, but its time to reevaluate that especially since their new business is financial terror. Petrol fuel/energy is crime and it has to be recognized as such. Any money or so-called profit that is claimed from it going forward (hell even backwards) must be disgorged permanently and with prejudice.
1. Gasoline isn't profitable, never has been and certainly isn't with petrol subsidized to 150%.
2. With the amount of subsidy present the gas price isn't reasonable even if its just to do things like address deflation through a kind of tax imposition that also props up petrol- its not like gas is priced competitively. This this is like the fantastic line of BS that comes from the petrol people trying to say cheap gas matters from a competitive stand point against electrics (it doesn't not even remotely)- or interpreted that petrol isn't helpless beyond belief and that its not a total unjustified (for at least 50 years now) pure welfare case without a right to exist where its persistence is crime.
3. Porsche customers situated as they are generally don't have any issue with gas prices but its not like they aren't also more aware about financial issues considering the higher SES. If the Tesla which may charge little as 1/7 as much at the charger means in terms of their use of the vehicle the difference between what they would have purchased and the next rung or two up the vehicle ladder it means Porsche will lose even sales and its already saying with the Mission E for instance its not trying to compete- in part because it won't a have a competitive offering because its so far behind on the tech- even when Tesla gave away much of it.
4. This is Porsche showing especially after its useless purchase by the VW group that its just a petrol shill or front, that its nothing more than marketing tripe for petrol. Its like premium petrol retail consumption BS, its just a branding game. When Porsche continues to say such stupid things its the inescapable conclusion. Its not like they said we are going to use this built in margin advantage over gas, plus the draw of potentially slightly faster charging to build out their network as fast as possible. No, its not like they even have their own network they just have leased BS so they are faking it to begin with.
5. When someone does a Tesla roof and a couple power walls they will charge for 3-7cents a kwh (and lower as time goes on)- and that will put a huge dent in Porche's BS. When it costs $3.00 to fill up a Tesla (dropping as time goes on with a Moore's law decrement) to go 330 miles verses a Porsche say a Cayene at 22 mpg combined at in the US say at say $3.19 a gallon or about $50 or 16x as much to go the equivalent distance that will hit them. So say $47 per tank at maybe 2.66 tanks a month across 7 years will amount to 10.5-$11000 in savings.
Yep, more fail convincingly BS for VW. Funny thing is that for most people that invest in Tesla, even if Tesla were to somehow go under, will if Tesla still ultimately succeeds in its mission in pushing a quick enough transition- these investors will be more than compensated. the average investor will be many times over compensated on any losses even if they zero out on a Tesla investment. Think how much the POS W. admin cost the average American with all of its fraud, BS and malevolence and incompetence- most of it aimed at now essentially useless petrol (useless even then for 3 decades already prior it was already useless in real terms relative to better alternatives- yes even before viable solar/wind) I am pretty sure the W. Admin set most of us in the US back 400K-500K just in dollar terms but it also radically weakened the security of the US and the world. Nice if the W. Admin did something functional with missile defense, but that's about it.
Real issue in the US is the law has to start addressing money based crime and criminality and has to start addressing non contributing or radically net negative right side toll road welfare barons that were paid off long ago for any actual or supposed contributions. I think up to now the USG thought in cost terms that it was cheaper cost wise to let them steal billions than to lock them up, but its time to reevaluate that especially since their new business is financial terror. Petrol fuel/energy is crime and it has to be recognized as such. Any money or so-called profit that is claimed from it going forward (hell even backwards) must be disgorged permanently and with prejudice.