Yesterday or day before most of the media articles covering Tesla about this for most of the day. Broad press relesse stuff.
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Unfortunately for those hoping for a self-driving tesla... they may be waiting a while. We haven't seen any indication that Tesla's camera-based fully self driving system is on track yet. Where is the fully autonomous Tesla?
GM (and Waymo) are about a year off from launching their first self driving ride sharing services. Their employees are already using the cars for commuting. The press has had the opportunity to ride in their vehicles already.
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...hevy-bolt-ev-to-launch-in-many-cities-in-2019
Of course, to me none of this matters. I still want a Model 3 even if the level 5 autonomy never comes. Because personally I don't care much about self driving or ride sharing. I like driving and I am not loaning my future Model 3 to anyone!![]()
Someone looking at this post 3 months from now will not know what you are referring to. That is why providing links and detailed information in a post is very important.
http://mashable.com/2017/05/01/elon-musk-ted-talk-self-driving-cars-mars-trump/#qSo0OUPJPmqm
He said self driving is about 2 years off. And self driving vehicles better than humans is 3 years off. I don't see anything about them being 100x better than humans. How do you measure that anyways?
Just for the record, Musk said fully self-driving vehicles were ~2 years off about 2 years ago.
https://electrek.co/2015/12/21/tesl...on-full-autonomous-driving-from-3-years-to-2/
Now it's 2 years later and he says self driving cars better than humans are 3 years off. I'm as skeptical about this claim from Musk as I am about GM recently saying they're committed to charging infrastructure. I have great respect from Musk and Tesla but I think Tesla has dropped the ball on autonomy.
Unfortunately for those hoping for a self-driving tesla... they may be waiting a while. We haven't seen any indication that Tesla's camera-based fully self driving system is on track yet. Where is the fully autonomous Tesla?
GM (and Waymo) are about a year off from launching their first self driving ride sharing services. Their employees are already using the cars for commuting. The press has had the opportunity to ride in their vehicles already.
https://www.greencarreports.com/new...hevy-bolt-ev-to-launch-in-many-cities-in-2019
Of course, to me none of this matters. I still want a Model 3 even if the level 5 autonomy never comes. Because personally I don't care much about self driving or ride sharing. I like driving and I am not loaning my future Model 3 to anyone!![]()
Now he is saying they will be 100x better than humans in a few years. Big leap from 10x better when ever that was set to occur. It was all over the news everywhere. Get the point but not always in a hurry to provide a like so a sponsored (bought and paid for media outlet can) can then push ads based on the link.
I don't see anything about them being 100x better than humans. How do you measure that anyways?
I think Tesla is now designing its own chip for AI for its autonomous program. Eventually, I think it's going to be killer, but, as usual, way behind his original timeline.
Yeah, it seems Tesla "hit a wall" so to speak when MobilEye pulled out of its partnership with Tesla and its quest for a fully autonomous driving system. Now Tesla is having specially built chips made for it, presumably to replace the missing MobilEye system. I also think Elon's stubborn refusal to use LiDAR is also holding back Tesla's advancement.
Meanwhile, competing semi-autonomous driving systems are advancing. Google/Waymo was IMHO always ahead of Tesla in terms of the ability of its driverless or semi-driverless cars to handle a wide variety of driving situations; but Waymo wasn't talking about its system being used outside of its own testing program, so Tesla was in the lead in actually deploying its system outside its own testing program.
Perhaps that is changing? Recent reports are that Waymo is planning on launching a pilot ride-hailing service in a Phoenix suburb:
"Waymo’s Ride-Hailing Service Is Launching Soon With Fully Autonomous Cars"
Tesla is in danger of being left behind in the field of autonomous driving, and IMHO if Elon doesn't change his mind about LiDAR, there's no question that Tesla will no longer be in serious contention for developing its own Level 4-5 autonomous driving system. IMHO either Elon will have to change his mind about LiDAR, or else Tesla will eventually wind up buying its Level 4 or 5 autonomous driving system from some other company... which will still require installing LiDAR in Tesla cars.
Did I mention that I think it's time, or past time, for Elon to step back and let someone else be CEO of Tesla Inc.? Yeah, I think I may have said that a time or two.![]()
And that is a typical shill thing to suggest isn't. Who pays you?
LOLWait, wait... Pushmi-Pullyu? An anti-Tesla/petrol shill?
I think in the 3+ years I’ve visited Inside EVs this is the first time I’ve ever seen THAT suggested.
And that is a typical shill thing to suggest isn't. Who pays you?
You might ask other forum members not to do that as well and in each case look at where the antagonism actually started.Please don't question the integrity of other Forum members.
... in each case look at where the antagonism actually started....
You might ask other forum members not to do that as well and in each case look at where the antagonism actually started.
Your own integrity is in question if you apply this unevenly or without regard to the actual sources of antagonism.
To his disrespectful sarcastic post?Well, in this case the antagonism seemed to have started when you replied to @Pushmi-Pullyu's thoughtful post without any sort of fact, or even opinion-based rebuttal, but rather with an accusation of shilling.
Please don't do that. Thank you.
I tend to disagree with aspects of Pushmi-Pullyu's opinion about this particular issue, but I wouldn't question his motivation for expressing them.