J01 JCW: "Johnny"

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First, the Motoring File reports that MINI engineers refer to J01 JCW as "Johnny." I hope John Cooper would have been happy with this car bearing his name. Gabriel predicts a fall debut.

How will MINI balance the range-vs-weight equation on the JCW? Will it weigh even more than the pretender (the J01 SE with JCW trim)? How will a true Johnny be visually distinguished from the slower pretender? The photos in the Australian article linked by the Motoring File have more red paint.
 
chrunck said:
You'll be able to see it accelerate faster :p
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That must be it. If the SE with JCW trim doesn't look exactly like the Johnny, how can they call it "JCW trim?" Did they consider calling it "JCW-ish trim" or "JCW-WISH trim?"

Perhaps the wheels and tires aren't considered part of the trim and the Johnny will get big 'uns.
 
insightman said:
That must be it. If the SE with JCW trim doesn't look exactly like the Johnny, how can they call it "JCW trim?" Did they consider calling it "JCW-ish trim" or "JCW-WISH trim?"

Perhaps the wheels and tires aren't considered part of the trim and the Johnny will get big 'uns.
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My actual guess is that the real JCW will have a big brake kit and 1" lower suspension. Mini has been offering external JCW appearance packages for awhile now, but it's just the body kit and none of the performance parts.
 
Brawndo said:
If it's dual motor I'll eat my hat. 240hp, open diff, fwd, still on 7" wide wheels, 3500lb.
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Like the F56 SE pretty well matched the ICE S, a JCW J01 would have to at least match the petrol (F66) JCW, which I expect will have bigger wheels, a stiffer suspension, and bigger brakes. A GP J01 would by necessity need to be at least as quick as a potential petrol version, and with instant electric torque that means rear drive or dual-motor. I reckon a modern GP would be aiming for the Golf R/RS3/A45 crowd, which means big power and a way to put that on the pavement.
 
The latest on the "Johnny" from the MotoringFile.

MotoringFile's Gabriel Bridger writes:
As we predicted last year, the JCW Trim design we’ve seen on the standard J01 MINI Cooper will form the basis of the full JCW model. So much so that they will be very hard to distinguish for the average consumer.

So, as I feared, unless the J01 JCW gets special wheels, the only way to tell it from a regular J01 with the JCW trim package will be to take a chip of the Chili Red paint from a brake caliper and have it analyzed to see if it's real MINI paint or just red paint from a rattle-can the owner bought at Ace Hardware.

The Johnny doesn't get a bigger battery, so it will offer less range than the slower J01, but at least it won't weigh much more. An interesting addition is a paddle to the left of the steering column that offers a 10-second power boost. No word on how long the driver must wait before giving the power paddle another tug. Will Bimmercode let you turn the pull-to-pass paddle into a toggle switch?

Mr. Bridger speculates about other aspects of the car, such as its weight and 0-60 time, but the only words from someone who's actually driven the J01 JCW come from a MINI engineer:

Patrick Haussler, the J01 MINI Cooper’s head of chassis dynamics. At the recent Australian launch of the Cooper SE, he let slip a few intriguing details; “I think everybody is quite happy with how the [regular MINI Cooper Electric] cars turned out and the Johnny [the J01 JCW], is nearly finished, so there’s not too much refinement left to do. There’s still some work [beyond the handling dynamics] but I already like it very much. The things that you like with the Cooper SE, you will like it even more with Johnny.”
 
insightman said:
The latest on the "Johnny" from the MotoringFile.

MotoringFile's Gabriel Bridger writes:
As we predicted last year, the JCW Trim design we’ve seen on the standard J01 MINI Cooper will form the basis of the full JCW model. So much so that they will be very hard to distinguish for the average consumer.

So, as I feared, unless the J01 JCW gets special wheels, the only way to tell it from a regular J01 with the JCW trim package will be to take a chip of the Chili Red paint from a brake caliper and have it analyzed to see if it's real MINI paint or just red paint from a rattle-can the owner bought at Ace Hardware.

The Johnny doesn't get a bigger battery, so it will offer less range than the slower J01, but at least it won't weigh much more. An interesting addition is a paddle to the left of the steering column that offers a 10-second power boost. No word on how long the driver must wait before giving the power paddle another tug. Will Bimmercode let you turn the pull-to-pass paddle into a toggle switch?

Mr. Bridger speculates about other aspects of the car, such as its weight and 0-60 time, but the only words from someone who's actually driven the J01 JCW come from a MINI engineer:

Patrick Haussler, the J01 MINI Cooper’s head of chassis dynamics. At the recent Australian launch of the Cooper SE, he let slip a few intriguing details; “I think everybody is quite happy with how the [regular MINI Cooper Electric] cars turned out and the Johnny [the J01 JCW], is nearly finished, so there’s not too much refinement left to do. There’s still some work [beyond the handling dynamics] but I already like it very much. The things that you like with the Cooper SE, you will like it even more with Johnny.”
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If BMW do the same think to SE adding weight bigger battery for longer range as 2014 BMWI 3 base was a faster car from all models to 2024 they produced as BMW I 3 bc I own one 2860 lbs with 60 amph the smallest battery I was able easy get 100 miles
 
Specs! Lots of HP and LB-FT, but Johnny's very heavy. For comparison, a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Plus with a single motor weighs 3862 pounds.

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Right now we're only giving up around 180 lbs on the F56 S/JCW, but with near-instant torque, and similar power and torque to the S. The J01 "JCW" should be the SE Sport or something. How does it keep gaining weight? What's the point of a whole new car if you don't make it lighter and better?
 
SameGuy said:
Right now we're only giving up around 180 lbs on the F56 S/JCW, but with near-instant torque, and similar power and torque to the S. The J01 "JCW" should be the SE Sport or something. How does it keep gaining weight? What's the point of a whole new car if you don't make it lighter and better?
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BMW I 3 through the years was gaining weight once battery was getting bigger and light carbon fiber body didn’t help the same is going with J 01 but I3 was still much lighter than SE/J01IMG_1518.webp
 
Speaking of wheels, here are the Johnny's JCW Aero Wheels (why don't they have "Spoke" in their name?). I assume they're also available with the regular J01 with JCW Trim, because everything else is, except maybe the brake calipers. However, what good are fancy red brake calipers if the fancy Aero Wheels keep them hidden?

I can't read the size on the Hankook Ion tires.

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Brawndo said:
Omg the wheels are 7.5" wide. A whole extra half inch. Rejoice.
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So they're already available "JCW Rallye Spoke 992" wheels, not as Gabriel Bridger called them, "new JCW Aero Wheels?" I'm comforted that this MINI wheel does, after all, have the word "Spoke" in its name.

Here, WerksRaeder24 is selling them with the Hankook Ventus S1 evo3 summer performance tires familiar to many SE owners.
 
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