First Rapid Charge

[FloridaSun]

Maybe the older ones are crap - I have seen them install newer ones that are 75kW or greater.

Most of the EVGo chargers around my area are the crappy 100 amp units..
Really doesn't affect me. We have tons of free or low priced Greenlots chargers in here in Central Florida.. Just charged on a free 50kw today..

 

[cmwade77]

Yes, that is normal for EVgo.. They stop after 45 minutes after others pointed out.. EVgo has the SLOWEST 50kw chargers out there. In reality, most of the EVGo chargers are 100AMP chargers, meaning that the maximum power you can get out of them is 40kwh which translates to an actual max charge rate of 38kwh. I have never gotten a faster speed than 38kwh on any EVgo charger.. They are crap.. Most other 50kw chargers will give you 48 to 49 kwh speed..
Electrify will give you a much faster rate for the same 35 cents rate than EVgo.. if you use the Hyundai Select Plan..

EvGo is actually $0.23 per minute here.

 

[cmwade77]

It's called "Hyundai Select." Details, and how to enroll, here: https://www.electrifyamerica.com/hyundai/

Tldr: You pay a special rate, everywhere in the country, that's higher than the <75 kW rate but lower than the <125 kw rate. And no session fees. But it expires at the end of the year, and it's not clear what Electrify America will do after that, if anything.

They have said this plan is temporary while they are working out a fix for the getting charged the higher price, even though you only get 77KW speed or so and that the fix will be implemented before this plan expires.

 

[cmwade77]

Additionally, there is no connection fee. This is important because you can unplug and re-plug as many times as you want. I sometimes do this to get a better charge rate. I recommend you sign up for the program soon. The program also eliminates the monthly membership fee of $4.00. One of their VPs spoke to one of the Guests on the Inside EV podcast that they were planning on changing their charging to Kwh delivered.

Honestly, I think KWH delivered is the fairest way to do it, not sure why all providers don't do this.

 

[ericy]

Honestly, I think KWH delivered is the fairest way to do it, not sure why all providers don't do this.

At least initially, state laws were in the way. Selling electrical power was reserved for electrical utilities, so they came up with the per-minute charge as a different way to do this. But state laws in many areas have been updated, and this is no longer required.

 

[cmwade77]

At least initially, state laws were in the way. Selling electrical power was reserved for electrical utilities, so they came up with the per-minute charge as a different way to do this. But state laws in many areas have been updated, and this is no longer required.

Ok, just hopefully they don't end up charging as much as Blink....$0.59/kWH for quick charging is outrageous, although I think I have only had their chargers work once for me.

 

[FloridaSun]

Ok, just hopefully they don't end up charging as much as Blink....$0.59/kWH for quick charging is outrageous, although I think I have only had their chargers work once for me.

They even charge like 40 cents for Level 2 charging.. I don't know who uses them?? At least around here, there are tons of FREE Level 2 chargers.. So, why pay that much for Level 2 charging?? I have never used Blink..

 

[TRSmith]

I'd hope EA would charge by the kWh in states where they could and stay with per-minute in the states where they couldn't. But if they kept the tiers, you'd still have the Hyundai/Kia problem in the per-minute states.

 

[cmwade77]

They even charge like 40 cents for Level 2 charging.. I don't know who uses them?? At least around here, there are tons of FREE Level 2 chargers.. So, why pay that much for Level 2 charging?? I have never used Blink..

They used to be pretty much all that was available in the San Diego area, so I had issues when going to San Diego in the Leaf, that is finally changing, so hopefuloly soon enough they will be completely Blink free.