Christmas lump of cold

[bwilson4web]

A Tesla owner and former BMW i3-REx, I had learned in 2016 that Electrify America and the other CCS-1 networks have (had) problems. The fundamental problem is no EV sales motivation. On the CCS-1 EV maker side, they lose all interest after it drives off the lot.

What I would like to see:

1. Dealers and manufacturers adopt a charging network responsibility for 24x7 charging stations on or near dealerships.
2. Manufacturers 'buy' board seats on charging networks and become responsible for charger engineering.
3. Add charging failures to vehicle and network warranty like flight cancelation costs.

Better still, adopt the North American Standard and/or significant DC fast charging on the J1772. Let that horrible kiudge, the CCS-1 fast into history with the CHAdeMO monster. Less is more and this current situation is like competing gas stations having different hoses and payment systems ... which they do!

Bob Wilson

 

[insightman]

A Tesla owner and former BMW i3-REx, I had learned in 2016 that Electrify America and the other CCS-1 networks have (had) problems. The fundamental problem is no EV sales motivation. On the CCS-1 EV maker side, they lose all interest after it drives off the lot.

What I would like to see:

1. Dealers and manufacturers adopt a charging network responsibility for 24x7 charging stations on or near dealerships.
2. Manufacturers 'buy' board seats on charging networks and become responsible for charger engineering.
3. Add charging failures to vehicle and network warranty like flight cancelation costs.

Better still, adopt the North American Standard and/or significant DC fast charging on the J1772. Let that horrible kiudge, the CCS-1 fast into history with the CHAdeMO monster. Less is more and this current situation is like competing gas stations having different hoses and payment systems ... which they do!

Bob Wilson

I agree Elon's connector is preferable, but unless the govenment decides to obsolete CCS, CCS would seem to have unstoppable momentum. Would the govenment obsolete CCS to side with Elon Musk? Doubtful.

What I would like to see:
A remote way to determine if DCFC charging stations are working.
A remote way to determine how many cars are currently lined up waiting for those working charging stations.

 

[hobbit]

Part of me agrees that CCS is a crock and could just as easily die -- the wet dream of some noob computer-science
kid gone horribly sideways. But for Tesla to try and push yet another "standard" [and it's not just about the
connector, y'know] is also unacceptable in light of the present and fairly massive deployment scenario.

If *all* of these things were fully open-sourced and there came to be a brisk market in smart adapter boxes
that could turn anything into what a given car needs, including a way to load it with plug-&-charge account
data, that would be a better scenario. Hyundai, for example, will never provide me an updated CCS controller
for my Kona that can do P&C -- they'll just tell me to buy a newer car. Nothanx.

_H*

 

[Puppethead]

But for Tesla to try and push yet another "standard" [and it's not just about the
connector, y'know] is also unacceptable in light of the present and fairly massive deployment scenario.

Obligatory relevant XKCD comic.

Superior technologies don't always win out. See: VHS vs. BetaMax, Blu-Ray vs. HD-DVD (off the top of my head).

 

[hobbit]

Oh, and it's too bad that Kyle chose to put his "rate your charge" thing on Twitter, which *everyone* should
be avoiding like the plague these days. I don't know if he ever dips into this forum, and I have no way
to contact him and tell him this, but perhaps someone else here who hobnobs with him? Domenick maybe?
Why couldn't such a thing be hosted here, or somewhere else reasonable?

I do try to do the per-unit Plugshare check-ins [working again after *I* found the broken piece of javascript
code *for* them that was preventing it!] but I don't think EA ever reads those or cares.

_H*