Best States to Own Electric Cars

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I’m surprised of the high ranking for Vermont in infrastructure. I think superficially it looks good but many of the stations are single unit 50kW EVGo.
 
Interesting. It is amazing how much different things are state to state. One of the biggest factors is the cost of electricity vs. gas to me. Some states the cost of electricity is over double the price of other states.
 
I reject the idea that not using subsides for EVs is anti-EV. Silly notion. Also, charging stations per 100k is a terrible metric - it includes the non-driving population in the metric. It makes far more sense to report charging stations based on geographic density - like number linear miles of road per charger - or do it based on number of light duty vehicles per charger. Not a good report to me because of this.
 
SouthernDude said:
I reject the idea that not using subsides for EVs is anti-EV.
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Well the subsides do help. One of the issues is the cost of an EV.

SouthernDude said:
It makes far more sense to report charging stations based on geographic density - like number linear miles of road per charger - or do it based on number of light duty vehicles per charger. Not a good report to me because of this.
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I eagerly await for your in depth article that satisfies all of the issues you pointed out. When can we expect to read it?
 
marshall said:
Well the subsides do help. One of the issues is the cost of an EV.
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Cost of an EV isn't an issue if someone is already in the market for a $35k+ car.

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I eagerly await for your in depth article that satisfies all of the issues you pointed out. When can we expect to read it?
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Well, considering how I don't have access to all the GIS data and the associated meta data for all existing charging stations nor do I have the time to conduct that study myself, probably never. However, does that make my critique less valid? Why settle for crappy metrics that don't provide any meaningful information?
 
My practice is to plan routes using ‘PlugShare.com’ but there are others. The protocol starts with getting a free account and setting a filter for the fast DC charging plug of choice. Configure your vehicle in the App with maximum, practical range.

For each potential trip, enter the start and end points. Then add fast DC charging stops to complete each segment. If planning to stay in a motel, add L2 stations for overnight charging with a free breakfast. With a Tesla, many shorter charging sessions will be faster block to block time than fewer deep charging sessions as this can use the faster charge rates below 30-50%. Save the route and check comments to eliminate marginal chargers.

So I have saved routes to my Mom, important friends and relatives, casinos, and vacation spots. The night before I recall planned trips and check recent comments while the car charges to 100%. An ideal route has ~120 mi between fast DC chargers at mini malls for biology breaks.

Bob Wilson
 
SouthernDude said:
Cost of an EV isn't an issue if someone is already in the market for a $35k+ car.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I look at the sales in Georgia with the subsidy and after the subsidy was removed.

https://insideevs.com/news/328085/electric-car-sales-crash-in-georgia-as-state-incentive-disappears/

SouthernDude said:
However, does that make my critique less valid? Why settle for crappy metrics that don't provide any meaningful information?
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It's easy to criticize, not so easy to do the work.
 
marshall said:
It's easy to criticize, not so easy to do the work.
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Nah. it actually wouldn't be to hard to do. I just don't have the data. I don't think the points on plugshare are open source.

marshall said:
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I look at the sales in Georgia with the subsidy and after the subsidy was removed.

https://insideevs.com/news/328085/electric-car-sales-crash-in-georgia-as-state-incentive-disappears/
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We can agree to disagree. I would just encourage you to consider the flaws using subsidies in general.
 
Interesting report. Thank you.

I'm surprised to see Cali as 5th, considering there are so many EV's here, including ours. Of course, most are Teslas (ours isn't though). Certainly far more than WA where we have a 2nd home. I'm surprised to see WA as #1, but the cost of electricity in WA vs CA probably has a lot to do with it and both states have high gas prices. I haven't been to Utah in a few years when we had a house in St. George, but that was long before we started getting EV's...
 
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