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Sounds like Tesla engineers wanted to make Autopilot work like Supercruise

Discussion in 'Tesla' started by David Green, May 14, 2018.

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  1. May 19, 2018 #21
    101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Auto pilot is radically better than super cruise so as usual idiot argument. What is the foot print on super cruise availability(?) About zero because they put it on another obsolete ICE car that non one wants and almost no one is buying. What do the sales look like a Cadillac? Tesla is is destroying the high end of the the auto market with share capture, Cadillac want to get their but after decades of trying can't really break in.
     

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  2. May 19, 2018 #22
    David Green

    David Green Well-Known Member

    As usual you post has no real information, no experience, and is just a bunch of negative blather that I doubt anyone wants to read or see. Comparing the 2 companies is silly, even though Cadillac did sell more cars in Q1 2018 in the USA than did Tesla in the entire world, and the USA is not even Cadillac's largest car market. The conversation is about supercruise and the fact that GM has passed Tesla by in this technology. Supercruise is not "BETA" and is the only truly hands off system on sale today. GM will roll it out on other vehicles as they get more confident, and since they build nearly 10M vehicles a year even a small percentage is more then Teslas entire fleet.
     
  3. May 27, 2018 #23
    The Duke

    The Duke New Member

    Because SuperCruise eye scanning was defeated long ago. No point in adding failed technology.
    Note this is a production product in 2010 flip the ipad to over the wheel and SuperCruise is fooled.
     
  4. May 27, 2018 #24
    The Duke

    The Duke New Member

    As far as who is "ahead". There is no real answer. Some value % of roads and some value % of attention needed. Argue away, we will eventually have a winner with 100% of the roads at 0% attention needed. Then we can come back here and hopefully all have a good laugh.
     
  5. May 27, 2018 #25
    Domenick

    Domenick Administrator

    2018 Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD
    I watched the video, but didn't see how it related to SuperCruise.

    Alex Roy did a pretty thorough head to head with Autopilot and SuperCruise back in January that worth the read if your curious about the details of the two systems. Alex has driven the Model S across the country a couple times and is quite familiar with Autopilot. He thinks the driver monitor makes SuperCruise superior, but the system is so limited to where you can actually use it, I personally disagree. Plus, Autopilot has improved across the entire fleet since then, and will continue to improve.
    Of course, you can't add driver monitoring with an over the air (OTA) update, so some people still tend to prefer the SuperCruise. I think Tesla's customers, who tend to really like Autopilot, prefer the less-nanny approach, ie.. only can use the system on certain highways.
     
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  6. May 27, 2018 #26
    David Green

    David Green Well-Known Member

    Every review I have read the Supercruise comes out on top for reliability, and safety factor. I test drove a CT6, and it was perfect for the 2 miles I went on the freeway. but that is obviously very limited experience. I am going to replace my diesel pickup in 2019, as it will be closing in on 200k hard miles, and I have asked my executive friends at GM to make sure Supercruise Tech is on the new HD pickups, and both just winked at me... No confirm or deny.... I sure hope so...
     
  7. May 28, 2018 #27
    Domenick

    Domenick Administrator

    2018 Tesla Model 3 Long Range RWD
    Oh, it's definitely coming to more of the GM line. The only unknown is the timing.
     
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  8. May 28, 2018 #28
    David Green

    David Green Well-Known Member

    Exactly... Who knows whats going on in those offices in Detroit. True story, first time I went to the Renaissance Center (GM headquarters) in 2004 I got lost in the lobby as they had all these bridges, ramps and corridors with no way to see where you were at, or how to get around in the building. I spent 10 to 15 minutes every time in the building just to find the right elevator. I was thinking at the time that GM Executives and VIP guests could easily get caught in this same maze, and lose time/productivity, possibly part of the reason GM is so slow to make a decision? I thought "who in the world designed this building?" When I was back there many years later, GM had torn out the maze of ramps and corridors and it was more like a modern office building in any city. I think this is the reason they got the Bolt to the market so quick... Haha! (joke)
     
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