Signature or Signature Plus

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by Sully151, Sep 11, 2021.

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  1. ColdCase

    ColdCase Active Member

    The system turns on automatically, but the visual indication only pops up when there is danger. The audio alert will sound and changes depending how close you are to an object with the speaker is loudest on the side/corner with the obstruction. You can disable the front audio alert but not the rear, short of using Bimmer code. I park in a spot with close by support posts and a narrow door, the alerts are an annoyance and distraction to me. I want to disable them, but BMW knows what's best for me :).
     
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  3. NextEv

    NextEv Member

    For the Iconic trim, the miniusa website shows the “Driver Assistance” package you can add for an additional $750, which I assume is the only way to get the exterior proximity sensors. The interesting thing is that once you click to add that package, it then demotes the car to a Signature trim !!! I thought the Iconic trim includes everything, no? Anyone noticed that?
     
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  4. ColdCase

    ColdCase Active Member

    Yes, the configure site can be confusing. It is included in Iconic trim, but if you want to pay for it, you need to start with Sig+, so it switches the model for you. :) Sometime you have to close the page or clear caches to restart from a clean slate. Wheels is another area that can change models on you.
     
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  5. Sully151

    Sully151 Member

    Would you say there is more, less, or the same amount of headroom with the moon roof?
     
  6. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    I would say there is more headroom. Instead of having a headliner, you have a thinner piece of glass. Even with the shade closed, it is higher than the rest of the roof.
     
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  8. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    That's how it may appear but isn't always true... I don't have specs for the Mini specifically but on my wife's Outback the entire headliner is lower by like a half an inch with the moon roof cars.

    You get more directly under the glass but less everywhere else.
     
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  9. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    Seeing as the glass is over your head, isn't that the "headroom" you care about? Same is true in the back seat.
     
  10. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    MINI's moonroof is actually two sections, one each over the front and back seats. Only the front section opens these days, though. Previous generation the rear section would tilt open when the front did, but only the front ever slid open (sliding over the rear section).
     
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  11. chrunck

    chrunck Well-Known Member

    I thought MINI used to say that the headroom without a moon roof was slightly more.
     
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  13. fasttr

    fasttr Member

    I think it depends on if the panel slides “into” the roof panel versus jumping up and sliding over the roof panel. The first one produces less headroom, the latter provides the same (or more).
     
  14. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    Don't forget about all the other stuff they have to put up there (motor, guide rail, linkages, gaskets, sun shade...)
     
  15. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    It slides up and over the top on the outside.
     
  16. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Wrote the Motor Trend curmudgeon who didn't like the 2020 MINI Cooper SE (headline: "I Wish I Could Recommend It"):

    The base infotainment system still offers Apple CarPlay, that panoramic roof encroaches on already limited headroom, and the dash-mounted head-up display projects the same information as the new digital instrument cluster, just a couple inches higher on a piece of Plexiglas (instead of being projected on the windshield like pricier systems).
     
  17. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    That MotorTrend piece has a good photo of the moonroof, almost identical to the angle I was going to take. Note the shades are retracted, you can see the front one up next to the glass in the middle. And I think the exposure is overblown, the windows have more tint than it seems in the photo.

    semoonroofjpg.jpg
     
  18. Sean Greene

    Sean Greene New Member

    when you have the car plugged in and charging, does that run off the wall unit to keep the battery full?
     
  19. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    Yes - the battery is always full at departure.
     
  20. Bryan T

    Bryan T New Member

    First-time poster here. We’re trying to figure out if it is worth the $4k upcharge to us. We do want the cloth interior. But we’d probably delete the sunroof. Not sure if we’d prefer 16” or 17” wheels.

    The dealer told us there would be a credit if they can’t provide the HK stereo.
     
  21. Tommm

    Tommm Well-Known Member

    In a nutshell
    If they dont have the HK you get a $550 credit.
    If you dont want the sunroof it is a delete, and $0 credit
    If you want 17" wheels you must get plus or iconic.

    If you dont want the sunroof, and are happy with the 16" wheels, you are paying $3,450 (after $550 HK credit) for mirrors that fold electronically, and the mirror with homelink. If you tint your rear window, the auto tint on the mirror doesnt work. So, is it worth about 3 grand for cloth over vinyl?
     
  22. Bryan T

    Bryan T New Member

    I think we’ll end up getting the Plus and keeping the 17” wheels and sunroof, even though we don’t really want either. We just really prefer cloth seats.
     
  23. chrunck

    chrunck Well-Known Member

    This isn't true.
     

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