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  1. Oct 28, 2022 #101
    C02less

    C02less Active Member

    Knoa the Kona. Our little ark to save the planet.
    My interest is keeping the battery warranty so I want to follow the owner's manual and use the correct low conductivity blue fluid. Anyone done this yet? What did the dealership sting you?
     
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  2. Oct 28, 2022 #102
    navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario
    Same here; I told my wife (who followed my advice to replace her last ICE with any full EV 2.5 years ago) that I’ll cover whatever the dealership charge is for that coolant replacement job.
     
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  3. Oct 28, 2022 #103
    electriceddy

    electriceddy Moderator Staff Member

    Nanaimo BC, 2021 Kona Ultimate Built Sept 2020
    From this post:
    "2nd year (24k kms) $200 (brakes take apart, clean & lubricate (pins etc) and checks
    In addition to the brake lubrication and checks, I will be requesting a second gearbox oil replacement @ a cost of @$200 (last one was in Jan 2022 @ 8699 km, so I can expect a $400 bill when I take mine in late October."

    Well, I wasn't far off. $337 today's maintenance costs, plus $130 for 2 Qts oil c/w 2 plugs and washers (invoice from August when I ordered it).
    Total $467 + tax.

    I do have my old plugs, which I will "rebuild" with magnets (like the 2 that are now installed), and more than half a Qt of unused oil, which should reduce the material cost next time (by about $75). Probably wait on this until the car is at about 75,000 km.
    I know in the spring, Hyundai always offers 15% discount on regular maintenance items, hopefully I can convince them to apply that to new coolant which is "time due" @ 36 months. Maybe try to swing the same for new brake fluid, wishful thinking.
    Oh, and then there is the brake fluid replacement, which surprisingly has a longer time service duration than the coolant, calling for replacement @ 48 months (or 48,000 kms). That I find hard to believe with our cool and wet environment.

    The one thing I did notice is the labor rate increased from $135 (Nov 2020) to $160 today (Oct 2022) which accounts for a slightly higher than anticipated cost, about a $40 difference.
    I might switch up the coolant flush and replacement (~$900), with the brake fluid flush and replacement (~$200), certainly could not afford both at the same time at those rates.
    Added up my repair bills after 2 years ownership which total $804 (including 2 GRU oil changes and materials). That works out to be 5.3 cents /km (because I have low mileage - ~15,000 km) or ~$400 per year...so far.

    Man... I thought electric vehicles were cheap to maintain, apparently, I was mistaken :(
     
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  4. Oct 28, 2022 #104
    navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario
    My brothers next car will be an EV, probably another two years before he makes the plunge.

    He likes the recent Hyundai EVs; I told him all about the blue coolant and its 36 month in service life and resultant high (IMO) routine maintenance costs of same. At least he will go in with eyes wide open.
     
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  5. Oct 28, 2022 #105
    KiwiME

    KiwiME Well-Known Member

    New Zealand '2019' EU, heat pump, pink coolant
    Did they have anything to say about the condition of the old oil or installing the modified plugs you delivered?
    Given the ongoing weekly reports I see of Kona / Niro owners acquiring a tapping noise and heading done the long path of repairing that, it's money well spent IMO, whether or not there is a connection.
     
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  6. Oct 28, 2022 #106
    electriceddy

    electriceddy Moderator Staff Member

    Nanaimo BC, 2021 Kona Ultimate Built Sept 2020
    Didn't get an update on the condition of the old, but if there were any particles, they would have advised me.
    Rubbing a Q tip on the old plugs it is a little blackish, no signs of metal but those were non-magnetic type.
    No problem installing the modified plugs. The tech was impressed I delivered them in separate containers so they wouldn't stick together.
    I feel better having the magnetic plugs installed now, thanks for your help and research regarding this matter :)
     
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  7. Oct 28, 2022 #107
    Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    2021 Kona Preferred Ontario, Canada
    I have 39,000+ km on mine and will have 36 months next September. So I am not worried about this for now. I am aware that chemical mixes age even if not used but I am not sure about this coolant. Maybe you should drive this car more?
     
  8. Oct 29, 2022 #108
    navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario
    It’s my wife’s car; any travelling we do is in my TM3.

    Now that we live in the same area as her sons, she only uses the car for groceries or for family visits.

    It seems 400 km a month is the new normal for her car.
     
  9. Oct 29, 2022 #109
    C02less

    C02less Active Member

    Knoa the Kona. Our little ark to save the planet.
    Hi E Eddy. Is there a dealer near you that does the blue coolant change for $900Cdn? I am getting quotes for considerably more. The price I am seeing in Canada for the coolant is about $130/2l jug, and it needs 7 jugs, so if you are seeing $900 for parts and labour they are giving you a a deal.

    FYI - I can buy the coolant for $Cdn90 per 2l jug in the US including shipping. That's a savings of $280 on the parts. With 1.5 hours labour the total is in the same $900 ballpark. If I could find a dealer in BC who would do the whole job parts and labour for 900 I would take it.

    I never believed that maintenance costs would be lower with an EV, but I thought they would be at least similar to my previous civics. I owned 4 civics that I drove a total of nearly one million km and never had a $900 repair bill on any of them. Still, I am glad I bought the Kona. The savings in gas will justify it, and Knoa is also saving something more important than just gas money.
     

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  10. Oct 29, 2022 #110
    Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    2021 Kona Preferred Ontario, Canada
    $900 coolant change is a huge and bitter pill to swallow. I wonder what other EV makers/dealers charge for the same job and what is the recommended frequency of coolant change.
     
  11. Oct 29, 2022 #111
    navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario
    For my TM3, the coolant is for the life of the car, no routine recommended change called for.
     
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  12. Oct 29, 2022 #112
    Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario 2019 Ultimate
    I'll just throw my 2 cents in here and point out that if you had your battery replaced the clock starts all over again at that point because battery replacement necessitates a coolant purge and replacement.
     
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  13. Oct 30, 2022 #113
    electriceddy

    electriceddy Moderator Staff Member

    Nanaimo BC, 2021 Kona Ultimate Built Sept 2020
    Here is (not) hoping for a free coolant replacement:)
     
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  14. Oct 30, 2022 #114
    Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    2021 Kona Preferred Ontario, Canada
    If I look at time interval I 'gained' four months. If I you look at mileage there is no difference.
     
  15. Jan 11, 2023 #115
    C02less

    C02less Active Member

    Knoa the Kona. Our little ark to save the planet.
    Regarding costs of the blue coolant change:
    I just had mine changed at 60,000km. Quotes (for the correct service) ranged from $Cdn1500 to about half that. I found that many dealerships really had no idea about what a Kona EV coolant change was all about and were quoting a coolant change for a gas Kona. In the end the cost was cheapest in Canada at my local dealer: $Cdn85 per jug of 07100-J2A20 (7 required) plus $Cdn99 for labour plus shop fees and taxes. So there is no savings to be had in buying the scan tool just for this job.

    I did run into a few hassles on this service (resolved now and covered in another thread) and the dealership marked down the cost of the coolant to $65. So maybe $65 is the dealer's price for 07100-J2A20.
     
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  16. Jan 11, 2023 #116
    XtsKonaTrooper

    XtsKonaTrooper Well-Known Member

    SW Ontario
    So the cost to change the coolant in the Kona is over $700?
    When does this have to be changed, I'm already at 90k km
     
  17. Jan 11, 2023 #117
    C02less

    C02less Active Member

    Knoa the Kona. Our little ark to save the planet.
    If your car is older than 2021 (or late 2020?) the interval is longer and the cost is lower because older cars came with a cheaper green coolant. If you have a 2021 (or late 2020?) or had the big battery replaced it is every 60,000km and over $700 (blue coolant). I recommend checking your owner's manual and following its recommendations. Checking under the hood is also a good clue: Green coolant = cheap. Blue coolant = expensive.
     
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  18. Feb 24, 2023 #118
    Tony Hays

    Tony Hays New Member

    San Clemente, California
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  19. Feb 24, 2023 #119
    Wildeyed

    Wildeyed Well-Known Member

    Eastern Ontario 2019 Ultimate
    This might be one of the greatest cut-and-paste errors I've ever seen. I just keeps on going! You really should try to take advantage if you're due. Watch the color drain from your service manager's face when they realize what the actual cost is. ;)
     
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  20. Feb 24, 2023 #120
    Lars

    Lars Well-Known Member

    2021 Kona Preferred Ontario, Canada
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