Rear sway bar

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by Rogue Synapse, Jul 18, 2022.

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  1. Has anyone upgraded their rear sway bar/anti-roll bar? I’m having some fun autocrossing my SE but wanted to stiffen the rear to correct some of the understeer. It’s a well-known and very common upgrade for the Cooper S but I thought I read somewhere that there was a different/nonstandard rear sway bar for the SE due to battery geometry. I don’t want to order a generic F56 rear sway bar and not have it fit.

    Would you believe I emailed Mini and they said they didn’t know the answer to this question?
     
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  3. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Oh, they know, but MINI doesn't allow access to the people who know...anything.
     
  4. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    As far as I know the MINI Cooper SE uses the F57 Cabrio bar #33506853917 so you might want to start there.
     
  5. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

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  7. Hatch

    Hatch Active Member

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  8. Thanks, super helpful. I was actually going to pull the trigger on that NM engineering sway bar a week or two ago before I realized the website attesting to fitment might not be the most definitive source. But it turns out there really aren’t any definitive sources.
     
  9. Brawndo

    Brawndo Member

    Well if you buy one and install it successfully, you'll become the definitive source.

    I'm not super pumped to remove all the under trays myself.
     
  10. OK so I did wind up getting the NM 25mm rear sway bar because it was compatible with F56 and F57. In an effort to avoid messing it up, I wound up having a local BMW/Mini shop put it on for me. They said it fit fine and was no big deal compared to a standard Cooper S, even though the subframe was different because of the battery pack. The sway bar came with step-by-step instructions with pictures in case anyone wanted to DIY it.

    I am also happy to report that it made a huge difference in autocross! I shaved a full 3.5 seconds off my times from the previous event with the stock sway bar. Huge! The biggest difference was the tendency to understeer/push/plow through sharp turns was massively improved. I dare say I even got the rear end to swing around a little bit and cornering was a dream. If anyone has any inkling to autocross the SE, I would say an upgraded sway bar is absolutely mandatory to fix the stock understeer. I am a fully converted believer.
     
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  12. MarkSasaki

    MarkSasaki Active Member

    That is great to know! I put the NM 22mm swaybar in my 2019 Cooper S, dropping the rear subframe wasn't to bad. I do want one for my SE so that is good news knowing it will work!
     
  13. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

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    How does it feel in daily driving?
     
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  14. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    Did you have to drop the subframe? On the SE, the rear of the battery is mounted to the rear subframe so it would be a bit more difficult to do
     
  15. MarkSasaki

    MarkSasaki Active Member

    It does not need to be removed, just lowered enough to get to the front sway bar clamp bolts. I have not looked at my SE yet, but I’m sure it just needs to be unbolted and supported by a jack.
     
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  16. polyphonic

    polyphonic Well-Known Member

    How does it change the car for daily driving?
     
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  17. MarkSasaki

    MarkSasaki Active Member

    It does not change the ride at all, but I did notice it will could lift the rear wheel off the ground when going up a steep driveway at an angle.
     
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  18. I have really not noticed any difference at all in daily driving, just in aggressive cornering in autocross. It has not affected the ride at all.
     
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