Read Battery Capacity Yourself (Autel AP200 Breakthrough)

Anyone's AP200 still working? I had to update my app and it no longer seems to work

 

I just tried mine and I get the message that it doesn't match and prompts to update the Diag-Asia. So, mine is not working now either.

 

Interesting… after 5-6 months of almost daily full discharge on highway, there is almost no battery degradation… the difference is that outside of the winter we set the charger to 12A and we don’t use the heater.

 

You live in Canada and you don't use the heater?!?! Is protecting your battery more important than your physical comfort?

In the past I owned a 1966 VW Beetle and a 1978 Renault Le Car, neither of which could supply enough heat to defrost the windshield, much, much less pretend to keep me warm. Fortunately, Eddie Bauer's thick, down jackets enabled me to drive in cold weather. Forty years later, I'm glad my Honda Clarity can keep me warm.

 

My reading of Ohliuw's statement is that the heater is not used and charging is limited to 12A when it is NOT winter. By strict construction of the language, no statement is offered concerning what is done during winter. One could fairly assume, given what IS said, that the heater is employed, and charging is effected at greater or lesser than 12A.

Can't say I've had the same luck, not yet having endured a Winter-with-Clarity:
Aug 14,2022: 100,559 miles
Batt Cap = 49.9 ah
Oct 30, 2022: 107,205 miles
Batt Cap = 45.62 ah

 

Thanks for clarifying that. I did read it wrong. My apologies to @Ohliuw for overreacting.

 

No problem, I wasn’t clear enough.

but yeah, in winter even though we preheat while in the charger, it eats a lot of battery (I’d say 40-50%).

on the other hand, we don’t use the AC much in summer, so I guess that also helps to maintain battery health

 

I routinely get around 30-32 miles of range on the battery now vs about 40-42 when my car was new. If the capacity drops to 36.6 before 100K miles I'll be eligible for a replacment under warranty. I'm not sure why mine is doing worse than the typical Clarity. As I became more knowledgeable about Claritys, I realized that the unit I bought was manufactured in Feb 2018. I bought it in Nov 2018. In the meantime, it was sitting on a dealer lot outdoors in Phoenix and I doubt that the dealer maintained it. In addition, it's routinely operating in a hot climate and most days I use 100% of the capacity. I estimate that it has around 1000 full charge/discharge cycles on it by now, so some degradation is to be expected, but this is more than I would hope for.

The beginning point of the graph is the nominal new capacity at 55 Ah. (I don't know what mine was when new as the dealer didn't provide me with that information and I didn't know enough to ask for it). The end point of the graph (at 100,000 miles) is what the warranty covers. Based on the four data points I have between 43K and 62K miles, I'll probably be just a bit above than the minimum when the warranty expires. [/ATTACH]

 

Agreed - the mileage vs capacity curve will probably flatten instead of being the straight lines shown in my simplistic chart. However, the loss of about 25% of my range is real. I can no longer make trips on the battery to places that used to be within easy range.

Yes, I've been providing data and will continue to do so. If you look, you'll see that my data points are the outliers (at the bottom on the main graph) in the 40 to 60K mile region.

 

My 2018 just had its 5th birthday the last week of December 2022 and also just hit 20,000 miles thanks to covid. I just checked and entered my battery capacity at 51.36. Not too bad for a 5 year old battery.

 

So, was that update to the Autel software ever actually released, or do we still have to contact them to get a newer version? It just says 2.01 in my app.

 

My MaxiAP200 app some how got partial "updated" to a later version so that the Honda 2.01.54 beta. I noticed when I got a message that I had a mismatched version numbers and was handed off to the Play Store. Alas, my 2.01.54 was lost after that and the version I got (Honda 2.01?) did not work well with our Clarity. I sent an email about this to Autel tech support and, later, got a reply email asking me to place a phone call to a tech support number. I called and te person I spoke with did not know much but did take my name and identifying information to send to the "engineers" for a return phone call. I never got a return phone call or email but a few days later, my android phone had the beta 2.10.54 version back again when I looked at the Mall information. Alls well that ends well I guess.

LeoP

 

Hey @MrFixit, What do you make out of this? I took your advice and gave up on the AP200 and went the $30 route with associated app. Last time checked my battery capacity with the AP200 was over a year ago and the measurment was 52.40 Ah. Today, I measured with the ELM327 system and the reports total battery capacity as 53.18 Ah. Obviously at least one of these readings is incorrect. What do you think?