Range in winter

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by Juliekona, Feb 9, 2021.

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  1. Hyundai called & said my battery replacement will be here in a couple of weeks.
    I'm looking forward to getting it replaced and then I can sell it.
    Maybe their ionic platforms will be better.
    I need a larger vehicle anyways; the Kona isn't very kid friendly.
     
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  3. 2019 Kona Ultim
    My datapoint - left garage, drove to work, parking in unheaded garage.
    On my way home - battery at 80%, heat on, defrosters on, driver seat heater and steering wheel heater on.
    Outside temp -18C (-.4F)
    EV battery info page reported: Range with climate on: 208km (304km with climate off)
    Total trip consumption 30.5kwh / 100
     
  4. navguy12

    navguy12 Well-Known Member

    Can you estimate the average speed of your datapoint?

    A trip at 80 kph versus 120 kph can have a large impact, even at these cold temperatures.
     
  5. I'm curious about what sort of climate settings reduced your projected range by almost 100km?
     
  6. My drive to work was 6.4km downhill and flat (i usually regen 2km on the downhill portion), max of 50 km/h city driving.
     
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  8. heat set to 22C, fan turned up, front & back defrost on, driver seat heater & steering wheel heater on.

    switching back to auto would regain about 10km range
     
  9. Huh. I've never seen anything that dramatic. Does it recalculate as you drive? I've certainly seem that happen.
     
  10. only recalculating I've seen is if i turn climate off.

    Today, drove again from unheated (but not as cold as outdoors) garage to covered but exposed parking garage and then home again, 6.4km each way.
    This morning it was -21C and this evening it warmed up to -13C
    22C auto heat, heated drivers seat, stearing wheel heat on, winter mode on
    SoC down to 60% (from 80% last evening)
    range reported on EV Energy Info screen 157km (222km with climate off)
    Consumption Info reports my recent average is 32.1kwh/100
    driving speed was even slower today due to snow covered city streets.
     
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  11. That's really interesting. I don't find huge differences in range between different drivers odd at all. There are so many variables. But your differences between climate and no climate seem really large compared to what I've seen with my car. I usually see a 20-30 km drop at most. I wonder what would cause that?
     
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  13. I'll add one more datapoint, then leave it

    Last night I charged in the garage, (to 90% because I forgot to reset the max) and this morning I preheated with the Bluelink app.
    Today, drove again from unheated (but not as cold as outdoors) garage to covered but exposed parking garage and then home again, 6.4km each way.
    This morning was warmer - only -11C - and this evening only -7C.
    22C auto heat, this morning did not need heated seat or steering wheel due to preheat, did use both on the drive home
    This evening SoC down to 85%, range 276km (335km with climate off)
    Average consumption slightly improved to 27.1kwh/100

    So slight improvement due to preheat and warmer ambient temps.
     
  14. An interesting article of EV ownership in NWT.
    The first Chevrolet Spark:
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    "The YK Car Share Co-op's 2016 Chevrolet Spark, affectionately named Sparky, has a range of 120 kilometres in the summer months but that drops down to about 50 to 60 kilometres in the winter. There is a designated parking spot for electric vehicles at the Yellowknife Co-op grocery store with a standard outlet — which is considered a level 1 charger for EVs. (Liny Lamberink/CBC)

    And second Tesla Model S:
    "When I talk to friends in the North … they'd love to get [an electric vehicle] but they want to be able to get out of the North with it," he said, adding that the first time he covered the more than 300 kilometres from High Level to Hay River on a windy, -17 C day was "dicey."

    "I made it, but I used the full range of the car," he said.
    "infrastructure needs to come first, in order for electric vehicles to be widely adopted in the N.W.T."
    Source:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/cold-weather-electric-vehicles-nwt-1.6310194


    Large capacity (higher density) packs, faster charging (800V), better TMS and infrastructure deployment are critical to reduce emissions, particularity in Northern environments. ;)
     
  15. John402

    John402 New Member

    Hi Julie, we are having the same issues as you and any further updates from Hyundai Canada? We are located like you in Canada and our Winters get cold. With our new battery replacement for the recall R0183, we also noticed a significant range reduction up to 40% as we get around 285 km now. We had to fight to get our $250 for all the inconveniences since Hyundai Canada reduced our range by 80% remotely without our knowledge/permission. Our dealership can't help us and apparently they opened a case with Hyundai Canada but they haven't got back to us yet since they are assuming that our family or other Hyundai Canada owners will forget. They seem to be coordinating their efforts together to Delay, Deny and Deflect to assume their responsibilities from all these Kona EV lemons since we are getting the same error messages. We took photos of all the Kona EV error issues and from their diagnostics, they couldn't find anything while the proof shows the contrary. Transport Canada was no help to help/protect Canadian citizens and we would be interested to start an action like they did on South Korea if other Kona EV owners join us in solidarity!
     

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