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  1. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

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    I know that on the Space Shuttle, they did use five different computers which "voted" on results, to assure accuracy (and eliminate the problem of glitches due to cosmic ray events and other radiation), but my understanding is that those were five identical computers running identical software.

    I'd be interested to see if you can come up with an authoritative citation for your assertion above. I will be very surprised if you can; it reads very much like B.S.

    There are certain military or aerospace applications that demand software that is developed with a zero tolerance for bugs, producing very reliable software. But of course, as you say, it's still not possible to get 100% reliability in a program a million lines long. It's possible to get close.

    Not that this will stop auto makers from making, or people from buying and using, self-driving cars. As I already said:

    “The thing to keep in mind is that self-driving cars don’t have to be perfect to change the world. They just have to be better than human beings.” -- Deepak Ahuja, CFO of Tesla Inc.
    But, Martin, you have shown yourself to have a highly developed ability to utterly ignore any facts or logic inconvenient to your arguments. As Ronald Reagan said: "Well, there you go again!"
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  3. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Much more will be spent on self driving because of urban sprawl (even if telecommute helps too) and road damage, and accidental deaths and people with disability and enabling the aged and the public's desire to reduce insurance costs (gambling with socialized excesses) and what Lilium is proposing will just cube this. It's too much of an environmental and economic surplus to avoid. I buy Tony Seba's analysis that it will reduce what the average family spends on transport to 1/10 while increasing the quality and convenience of the experience including no more traffic and no more hunting for parking spaces and no more even having to buy cars really. Plus its possible to put in a kill switch or a manual override that doesn't require one to be James Bond to operate.

    That is what Waymo is doing and in a way what Tesla is doing. This system will just get better and better for a long time.
     
  4. Roy_H

    Roy_H Active Member

    Clearly you don't know what AI is. Artificial Intelligence is a computerized self-learning system. It excels at dealing with the unknown by trial and error. It may not make the best response to something new the first time but when the desired result is not obtained, it will try again differently until it gets it right. I don't believe current systems are conscious in the sense of self-aware but that doesn't mean they can't solve problems.
     

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