Musk on sabotage

This is interesting for a couple reasons. The Lawyer that took the case is no slouch, and certainly very experienced with this type of case, and also does not get paid if they do not win a settlement. Hmmm... He said he believes Tripp, which means to me that Tripp showed him some irrefutable evidence to get him to sign on to take the case. Time to bust out the popcorn, this one might be good... If he wins the SEC claim, then suing Elon for defamation is a cake walk as he would have already proven his motivation as a whistleblower. More interesting is that whatever evidence Tripp brings forward, will be used by the already escalating class action suit about Musk misleading about model 3 production capabilities late last year.

 

Yes, thats the question... Lets see the evidence, on both sides. Yes, lots of money being spent that is really senseless, and distracting from BEV's.

 

Well Bob, again, you are not a securities attorney so I have to take anything you write on the subject with a grain of salt. The way I understand it from my wine drinking buddy who is the chief counsel for a fortune 25 company, the CEO's tweets can give legal exposure on anything he knows, or should have known. If there is any misinformation, without correction, this can create liability for the corporation. All of this is theory, but I suspect Elon has subjected Tesla to some liability in these situations. There are multiple lawsuits ongoing, including a few with class action against Tesla currently. Predicting the outcome of lawsuits is like predicting the winner of the World Series 10 years in advance, possible, but not likely.

 

The fake whistle blower (beyond ridiculous- whistle blowing is for entities that are harming the public or doing something that is seriously harming people) claims Tesla is doing grate harm to the world. In what delusions world does one live in to accept that statement. So there is nothing this guy has very clearly.

Lets also remember the oil exec that impersonated Musk trying to get info and got caught. In the above case the the BI shill mag was being used by its petrol employers as a cover. Tesla needs the FBI as there are also allegations of sabotage.

 

Did he get fired when the company he was working for discovered he was engaging in fraud while attempting industrial espionage?

If so, then pleading for mercy on the basis of being unemployed is like the guy who murdered his parents, then made a plea for mercy on the basis of being an orphan!

Yes, occasionally JUSTICE does happen in the real world.

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Ummm... it's up to the SEC to decide whether to investigate any claim filed with them. It's not at all like suing someone. Nobody "wins" an SEC investigation except the SEC itself.

Based on your posts in the approximately 13 threads you've created here specifically to attack Tesla, I very much doubt that most reasonable people would agree with your assessment of what's "irrefutable"!

 

I think everyone except dedicated Tesla bashers will agree.

Elon Musk has a history of making exaggerated claims against people who attack Tesla and/or its products in articles published by the media. Witness the feud between Elon and New York Times reporter John Broder, over Broder's error-filled report as a first-time Model S driver on a road trip involving bitter cold and blizzards. Both of them wound up with a great deal of egg on their faces; both were shown to have made many statements contrary to the actual facts of the case, as you can see if you dive deeply into the details.

Tesla's accusation of "sabotage" was found nowhere in the suit Tesla filed against Tripp, is that correct? So I'm guessing that was just another case of Elon overreacting to a publicized attack on Tesla, rather than sticking to the facts.

Sometimes Elon is his own worst enemy.

 

Oh, you're talking about the cash awards given by the government to genuine whistleblowers?

I'm not sure what you mean by "less than unit counts of 30,000 Model 3 units". Tripp is claiming Tesla over-reported its Model 3 production, is that right? And if so, by how much?

Anyway, I'll be at least mildly surprised if Tripp is given any "whistleblower" reward by the government. This appears to be a case of a disgruntled employee encouraged and bribed by a dishonest reporter with some sort of hidden agenda and/or grudge against Tesla; encouraged to make exaggerated or even wholly manufactured complaints about Tesla.

At least, that's what the Ars Technica article says or implies about the case.

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Looking back near the beginning of this thread, I find:

Well that's rather vague. What does "closer to" mean? Is he claiming it's about 1900, or is he claiming it's ~1949?

Anyway, it reads like Tripp is claiming the number is off by some 50-120 units. Whether the SEC would think that is significant or not -- if there is any truth to it, and we haven't seen any actual evidence of that -- I have no idea.

I can also see that there might be some legitimate difference in opinion on the count. For example, if a unit rolled off the end of the production line but was sidelined because it had a quality issue that needed to be dealt with, is that unit "produced" because it has rolled off the line? Or is that unit "still in production" because it's not yet ready to be shipped out? I think the question in such a case could be settled by asking what the industry norm is. How do other auto makers handle cases of units which are sidelined for corrective work after they've rolled off the line? Are they counted as part of production or not?

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This is going to be an interesting week in the Tesla world, not only is there the little Q2 earnings report on Wednesday, but it sounds like Martin Tripp's lawyers are going to show their first cards... I caught this on Staurt Meissner's Twitter.


"Interesting week coming up for $TSLA .Will be releasing golden nuggets of police reports showing shocking things inc the false report by Tesla regarding GigaGate evidencing the defaming of Mr. Tripp.& forceful Answer will be filed - tweety bird tells me @elonmusk will be sued"


Then in the comments I saw Meissner reply this to a comment...


"Yes and as you will see, it seems I am not the only one who takes guidance from a “tweety bird”. Food for thought. “They” are watching, and very worried in reading this tweet. Enjoy your Sunday @elonmusk"