Green GOP and a flipping of the political poles possible?

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  1. 101101

    101101 Well-Known Member

    Even if you know someone up close you may not know who they are. And of course people can change. And personally can't stand the great man or woman theories of history but can see taxing the hell out of non-contructive billionaires like Zuckerberg and the Kochs and the Waltons and Gates and Buffet but essentially all of Musk's associated money seems to be going to making the planet continue to be habitable and providing a plan B through making the species interplanetary. They don't like it because he is not a loss leader for parasites, because although far perfect he sets a bad example for the strictly incestuous and selfish oppressive use of money- doesn't seem to give a damn about their bs. He is just another human but one thing- he is apparently not a slave to money like some of these others clearly are. They can't stand in the shadow of strength because it makes them look properly weak. Bernie rolling over for Biden and Hillary's natural gas controlled DNC 2x and now attacking true green makes him look like he is as in the pocket of fossil fuels industry as rep Lorena Gonzalez. AOC same thing as is obvious with her: "Biden won fair and square." Her co-author on GND Markey took 60k from fossil fuel industry and AOC took 11K both after signing pledges they wouldn't (have to double check Markey on the timing)- why was it necessary to have a pledge saying they wouldn't pimp the country in the first place(?)- criminals sign pledges saying they will be good, they will self regulate and won't do it again....

    Apparently Musk expressed something like wanting the stimulus to take the form more of a basic income type direct payment to people (real stimulus with a real multiplier) not bailouts outs to for instance natural gas companies. And Bernie started name calling in response. Why? Of course there is more to it but how much more? Actions speak louder than words. Lorena Gonzales in CA also in the pocket of fossil fuels- they were apparently her greatest contributor. The the Pans in CA are about as legitimate as the FCCs anti neutrality Ajit Pai and have the same ultra nasty off the scales self righteous sense of entitlement about their totally oppressive behavior and goals.


    Pan was removed and demoted upward (a common practice)- they keep trying to pitch that this wasn't the case (in total crap rags like the LA Times) but she stood for forced injection for mainly inoculations (not even vaccines) certainly not the new supposedly safer mRNA stuff- and the stuff she and the other Pan were pushing (still push) contained more and more agents and wasn't tested for safety or efficacy because the Army says its above testing (for expediency reasons) and pushing it surely in part because it would up the money of the idiotically indemnified for-profits that are the worst kind of PPP, and for the stuff that wasn't even oral all (almost all injectibles greatly magnifying risk) all of which Japan and all the rest of the world (except France) essentially rejected decades ago with improved results for doing so- they stopped doing these things and surely don't push stuff like flu vaccines and we see how well those worked relative to covid 19. I get it, grants at the top and rent seeking at the bottom, but the insularity of the US vaccine manufactures is the absolute worst and their results with their totally obsolete wares have totally sucked. But both Pans did and do and were and are willing to snidely violate people's constitutional rights apparently for personal gain and both seem exactly like Ajit Pai- both by their acts and words seem to be crass totalitarians that have at best religious level sham science on their side- they are contradicted by more credible people from Japan (best health outcomes by far in the world for the lowest costs.) Thankfully a bright spotlight has shown on the vaccine racket in the US from covid. But have to assume it wasn't just fossil fuels that planed to try to get Tesla through the Freemont plant as a bottle neck but also some pissed of defense contractors that have pull with the Army (the Pan's master) because Tesla is cleaning house in that realm too.

    Covid has been in the country since last July. About the time those little black mosquitoes showed up (an Asian species- but again could have been any species) and if you follow stuff on these mosquitoes you'll see of course as mosquitoes they are associated with malaria but also flesh eating disease. Wonder if this wasn't the true or primary vector for covid, wondered if they were bio-warfare from the beginning. In retrospect their timing coincided with the loss of a registered agent and the shutting and defunding of the core of the CDC (Army's bio-warefare group) in July a year ago which only reopened in April. Remember earliest strands appeared in the US. Who are the Pans, they are CDC (Army.) So the army may have had enough of the instability abroad and at home (Trump said the lead Army General was in charge- that in context is a sign of at least a temporary coup) but climate change and getting rid of fossil fuel politics and its money is a much bigger deal. Fossil fuels may have served to butress American imperialism which was used as a stabilizer right after WWII (even as the US was the sole nuclear power) but it was obvious decades ago that continuing fossil fuels was a huge mistake and we should have been done with them right after WWII and should have avoided trying to use them as power reinforcement to stave off an un-survivable WWIII. Seems at the heart of the GOP are people who believe in winning possibly at any costs, and their brand is America and they are sympathetic to America first and American exceptionalism and nationalism. They also claim to be realistic and pragmatic. Some can see the stupidity now of fossil fuels and they want to end up on top like a cat lands on its feat. And its easy to take the mantle from a phony left and they are looking around for new pillars because their old pillars have a lot of mileage. An agrarian steward of the land approach is something they had before the parties switched orientations and they could go back to it.
     
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  3. cmwade77

    cmwade77 Active Member

    Actually, I am now 99% certain that COVID has been in the country since at least October of 2017....why? Because I had all of the symptoms for COVID at that time and I know others who did as well and they got Antibody tests that came back positive.

    But none the less, it would be nice if the GOP would take up the green side of things.
     

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