evse recommendations?

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by KeninFL, Jun 13, 2020.

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  1. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    I have not yet seen a dip like that in any of my home charging sessions. I'm using a Grizzl-E Classic and reviewing the charging logs via Tronity.
     
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  3. Lainey

    Lainey Well-Known Member

    I do see some tiny drops for a moment from 7.4kwh to about 6.9, but never a total drop off. Using Chargepoint flex.
     
  4. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    I have a classic Grizzl-E as well. It works so well I don't really need a smart Grizzl-E yet, but I'm blind to my charging usage. How does Tronity work?
     
  5. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    Tronity piggy-backs on your MINI app login credentials to scrape data from BMW's servers, including details not exposed in the MINI app (including charging details). There was a brief thread on the Tronity app in May.
     
  6. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Oh, the curse of having data. I hope someone on this forum can tell you if you should blame your EVSE or your SE for this dip.

    Other than lighting an LED to indicate when it's charging, my dumb ClipperCreek EVSE tells me nothing. My curiosity prompted me to visit the ClipperCreek website to see if they've jumped onto the communicating EVSE bandwagon--they haven't. I saw the price for my commercial-grade 48-Amp ClipperCreek EVSE is now a whopping $1,995 (I bought mine used for $400 back in 2019 when early specs led me to believe US MINI Cooper SEs would be able to charge at 11kW like UK SEs). ClipperCreek's newest product is a very compact 32-Amp Level 2 charging cable ($469 hardwired; $484 plug-in):
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  8. Whosehouse

    Whosehouse New Member

    For those of you with a Grizzl-e: was set up easy?

    No matter how I fuss with the dip switches, the Mini won’t allow charging to start. Grizzl-e is fine, but the car doesn’t get past initially ‘seeing’ that something is plugged in.
     
  9. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    I just plugged mine in and it started charging...

    Do you possibly have a charging time schedule through the MINI settings? I have mine set to charge at midnight and when I plug in the Grizzl-e it clicks on for a second then turns back off when the car refuses the charge (until is starts at midnight).
     
  10. Whosehouse

    Whosehouse New Member

    No, mine is set to start immediately. It’ll do the mini charger just fine, recognize the grizzl-e, but not start anything.
     
  11. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    Weird... I didn't mess with the dip switches on mine. Maybe something with that? What is the status LED on the Grizzl-e doing?

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    By Mini charger do you mean the level 1 charger that came with the car?
     
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  13. ColdCase

    ColdCase Active Member

    The car is not already fully charged is it? I didn't touch a thing on mine, The dip switches came from the factory set to 40 amp and I just plugged it in, and the Mini draws its 32 amps.
     
  14. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    In addition to sharing what the Grizzl-E status LED shows, what does the MINI's charge status show?
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  15. Whosehouse

    Whosehouse New Member

    To all the questions: yes, the lights on all devices are communicating as they should.

    New wrinkle: if I plug in now, it’ll start charging, the car will give me an estimated time. After about four seconds, the grizzl-e buzzes five times, flashes a (I think) yellow light and it all stops.

    I swear I have the worst luck.
     
  16. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    Well there shouldn't be a yellow light but 5 flashes/buzzes means the charger is too hot. Either that's true or you have a defective charger.

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  17. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    Is the Grizzl-E hardwired or plugged in? Do you have a GFCI on your outlet? There's one built into the Grizzl-E and it does not work with a second GFCI on the circuit (I asked Grizzl-E about that).
     
  18. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    Doubling gfci does work but is much more likely to have a false trip so it's not recommended. I wouldn't think it would cause issues like this
     
  19. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    One thing to try (if you haven't already) is to calibrate the internal gfci offset. The manual says to do this before changing the dip switches so if you didn't maybe it's causing your issues?

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  20. Whosehouse

    Whosehouse New Member

    Thank you all for the help. Turns out it needed a software update pushed out by the company today. Seems to be working fine now on the 40 amp dip setting.
     
  21. TripleD

    TripleD Active Member

    Just installed our Grizzl-e - charging away!!! IMG_0247.JPG
     
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  22. hanyoung99

    hanyoung99 New Member

    Quick ? - Thinking about the GRIZZL - E, but it will not allow you to start charging during off peak times. With the mini app - it will allow that? Therefore don't need a smart charger? Likely will purchase a Tesla in the next year as well if that changes things.
     
  23. F14Scott

    F14Scott Well-Known Member

    I have both a MINI SE and a Tesla M3 AWD. My chargers are "dumb" Tesla HPWCs: they have no capacity to schedule or report their charging; they simply flow current when the cars ask for it.

    Both cars have the capacity to schedule their own charging. I currently have each vehicle set to begin at midnight, which means they are both finished, no matter how initially depleted they are, by 0700.
     
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