Delivery Stories

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by insightman, Feb 27, 2020.

To remove this ad click here.

  1. SmartElectric

    SmartElectric Member

    Storing a chassis for two months? Sounds fishy. Why wouldn't they reallocate that painted chassis to ICE production?
     
  2. To remove this ad click here.

  3. I’ve heard they are snowed under at the factory and quite stressed. Perhaps not worth the admin to try reallocate a bunch of chassis to other builds, especially when they will need them again in a month or so.
     
  4. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Not what we customers like to hear. I wonder how many MINI production team members were not able to return to work and were replaced by newly hired employees?
     
  5. Certainly feeling sympathetic towards the factory team. The supply chain and operational strain must be extremely tough at the moment. I imagine that the production line is not setup to handle anything near the level of disruption they are experiencing. Unprecedented times!
     
    insightman likes this.
  6. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Today, my dealer sent me the VIN for my "21M9 Coop SE" and wrote "production started on your car this morning." Unsurprisingly in these "uncertain times," the delivery date was not predicted. I'm heartened to know my MINI now exists somewhere in Plant Oxford, even if it will soon be sitting in the MINI Cooper SE holding lot, waiting for unavailable parts.
     
    SmartElectric likes this.
  7. To remove this ad click here.

  8. KeninFL

    KeninFL Member

    Hello Everybody. Glad to be here. I had been searching Mini forums and picked this one. One of the reasons was Kyle Connor's video here which I had seen on youtube. (Kyle, Mini owes you a commission on every SE sold; your enthusiasm for the car is outstanding.)
    Anyway, I have a question. Yesterday I emailed my nearest Mini dealer (Tom Bush in Jacksonville, FL). They told me the the soonest car that would be available will be a 2021. Ok, an understandable development with Covid and Oxford being shut down until recently. They told me to submit the $500.00 deposit and when they get a car they will let me know, and if I didn't want it they "are required to return it to the manufacturer." What? Is that right? Why not just make it available to the next person on the waiting list? Also, I didn't get any answer about specifying the model/equipment I would want. Anybody have any info about what they are telling me. Maybe I should check with another dealer?
     
    Domenick likes this.
  9. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    I ordered mine on Friday. Here was my experience:
    • I contacted my local dealership directly.
    • They said I had to submit the $500 deposit online (and specify them as my dealership) first, then they could take my order.
    • I did that, and the dealership contacted me as soon as they got confirmation of my deposit.
    • I went to the dealership, and the sales manager took my order, where I specified the trim, color, and wheels I wanted.
    The printout he gave me shows a model code of 21M9, so that confirms the 2021 model year build.

    The sales manager said he expected a 3-4 month wait, but I won't be surprised if it's longer. He also said they were supposed to get a tester, but that was cancelled once the pandemic complicated things. I got the impression my dealership will only receive custom-ordered SEs rather than an allocation of pre-configured cars--at least until supply catches up with demand.

    Times are strange and supplies are tight, so I suppose it's possible MINI has enacted some policy to ensure unsold SEs don't sit on lots...but sending them back to the manufacturer seems dubious. <shrug>
     
    Domenick and SmartElectric like this.
  10. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I ordered my MINI Cooper SE in October with the full knowledge that no cars would be delivered until March. I hoped that submitting my down payment so early might snag me a 2020 car even though I live in Michigan, which is not California or one of the other ZEV states. I also entered Amazon's MINI give-away to get the first one delivered, but I didn't win. Then I submitted a second down payment in January to get into the lottery for one of the first 200 MINI Cooper SEs MINI put on a boat and sent across the ocean. I was lucky enough to get my down payment accepted, but there was no gray Iconic with a black top in that first boat-load so I decided to pass and wait for the exact MINI Cooper SE I ordered.

    Well, as you know, a pandemic shut down Plant Oxford, where the SEs are built, so my quest to buy a 2020 MINI Cooper SE died. Now I'm waiting for one of the first 2021 SEs and if my dealer has been correctly informed, MINI has started building my car. That would seem good because when that factory is running at full steam, they turn out a new MINI every 67 seconds (but they're not back up to full steam yet). However, @Oliver Bloice, who is waiting in the UK for his SE says that he has heard that the factory is missing critical parts for the SE, so I'm not holding my breath.

    @Matt Shumaker, who has some great YouTube videos on his Tech Forum channel, was waiting for his 2020 SE in Illinois with no idea when it would come when his dealer said that one was available in New York if Matt wanted it. He did and he's become one of the best sources for YouTube info on what it's like to drive the car.

    As far as what happens to cars that were ordered but not sold, that happened in Oregon and there were 4 2020 MINI Cooper SEs available after the people who ordered them backed out. That situation seems to be at odds with what your dealer told you, but MINI might have changed the way they are distributing this model after what happened in Oregon. There are many for sale in Canada, but that's likely because they are much more expensive there than in the US.

    I don't know where you're located or how good your nearest MINI dealer is, but if you want one your choice is to place your $500 deposit and wait or search the country for a MINI dealer who has one and have it shipped it to where you live. There are already used ones for sale in Germany and France, but getting one of those would be more problematic.

    Hopefully, your luck will be better than mine. I'm convinced the MINI Cooper SE is worth the wait.
     
    MichaelC and SmartElectric like this.
  11. KeninFL

    KeninFL Member

    Thanks, MichaelC. I visited the dealer today and they told me essentially the same thing.
    Thanks, MichaelC. I visited the dealer today and they told me essentially the same thing. They were straightforward and helpful and emailed me a couple of pdf's w/info. iirc all cars being manufactured in Oxford now will be 2021's.
     
    SmartElectric and MichaelC like this.
  12. To remove this ad click here.

  13. KeninFL

    KeninFL Member

    Thanks for the reply, insightman. I went to the dealer today and got my questions answered. I'm not frantic to get a SE asap; I am concerned about getting the car I spec. If you're willing to wait, it will eventually get here. Thanks again
     
    SmartElectric and insightman like this.
  14. KeninFL

    KeninFL Member

    FWIW: my dealer told me on Thursday (6/11) that from the time they put my order in it will take 2-3 months for the car to be delivered to them baring any more unforeseen interruptions.
     
    SmartElectric likes this.
  15. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Before the pandemic, Plant Oxford's multiple production lines could make more than 1,000 MINIs a day. However, the parts come from 27 different countries, so there are many potentials for supply-chain disruptions. My dealer told me my SE started down its production line on June 3rd, but I've heard nothing but crickets since then.
     
    SmartElectric likes this.
  16. Ooh I like those silver hood stripes! Subtle but very good.
     
  17. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Tell us about your new MINI Cooper SE. Did you order it or buy one the dealer already had? 2020 or 2021? What colors/trim/wheels? First BEV? First MINI Cooper? Do you live where cold weather will possibly present a challenge to its range? Have you ridden in the rear seat? Photo, please.
     
  18. The dealer had three in stock! It's a 2020 and the Canadian "Premier" trim (middle trim). I didn't want the Premier+ top trim because I did NOT want a black headliner or a black dashboard, and I really wanted the tweedy fabric upholstery instead of the solid leather. Fabric is so uncommon these days, and I like something a little different!

    All the ones they had on the lot came with black wheels (which I also hate), so I had them repaint them the normal silver colour - muuuuuuch better. And this is my first electrified-anything car - I went straight from ICE to EV. (My first Mini too!)

    I'm in Vancouver, so I'm not worried about the cold too much - and the fact that these guys have a heat pump is a nice bonus. My "big travel" days are only 63km round-trip between charging, so any winter range drop isn't really a concern for me. I can only charge at work - no ability to charge at home - but I'm not concerned in the least. And my parking at home is in an underground parkade, so even in the dead of winter it doesn't get that cold under there.

    I got into the back seat for the first time last night while I was detailing it - it's surprisingly big back there for the size of car! Actually getting back there isn't the easiest, but it doesn't matter - nobody is ever going to be back there (and if they don't like it, then they're welcome to use their feet and/or bus pass!)

    Mini tax:
    minitax.jpg
     
  19. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I totally agree that your silver wheels look good. You should get the brand and color of paint they used and, if possible, buy a spray-can of it just in case an unforgiving curb jumps out and attacks one of your wheels. It's sometimes tough to find the exact matching paint for automobile wheels--the color of the cap doesn't always accurately represent the color that comes out of the nozzle.

    Enjoy your electric MINI Cooper!
     
    rossferguson and electriceddy like this.
  20. Heat pump is a huge bonus, enjoy the feeling (and benefits) of driving electric- BTW it looks awesome:)
     
    rossferguson likes this.
  21. I was shocked at how inexpensive it was for all four wheels (even though the dealer ate the cost as part of the deal)...it was only $450 for all four wheels to be painted! So if I get attacked by one of those wild curbs, it's not the end of the world to undo the damage :D
     
  22. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    @rossferguson, this MINI Cooper S below your SE shows how your wheels look muuuuuuch better. Also, I consider the non-S features below the SE's aerodynamic grille to be a styling triumph. The cute little splitter, uncomplicated lower air intake and the smooth transition to the fog lights make the front of the MINI Cooper S look ugly in comparison.

    upload_2020-6-25_0-29-28.png
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Jun 25, 2020
    rossferguson likes this.
  23. Seriously, black wheels are the WORST. I hate the way they look, and they're also a complete PITA to keep looking nice too...I had a Nissan Rogue as the predecessor to the Mini and it had silver wheels with black-painted insets, and it was so hard to keep the black looking nice. Even waxing the black parts didn't stop them from looking full and scratched after only 2 years of driving!

    One small annoyance about the Mini so far is a picky little detail, but: there's no good place to hang the charge port cap when you're plugged in. You'd think that Mini would've made a holder on the inside of the charge port door to hold the actual cap, but all there is is a shallow detent in the hinge where I try to hang the strap holding the cover. It's not the most elegant design. :/
     

Share This Page