DC Fast Charging not working, port LED red

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by Etienne Savard, Nov 30, 2019.

  1. Etienne Savard

    Etienne Savard New Member

    I just tried 3 different DC Fast charger: I connect the car, initialize the session, but it abort. The charge port light is RED. There's no sign of ice inside the connectors (plastic caps are always on), and the connector seems to go all the way in the ports...
    Level 2 is working good.

    Any tips, or clue how I can get DC fast charging working again? It's -7C here in Quebec Canada... Hope it will not do that all winter, it will a long winter...

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. BlueKonaEV

    BlueKonaEV Well-Known Member

    I would bring the car to the dealer to have it checked. The DC fast charger uses the same pins as the level 2 plug for communication with the vehicle. The 2 bottom pins are for the actual DC charge. I wonder if you tried 3 chargers of the same brand/company or different ones?
    I once had an issue with 3 different Electrify America chargers at the same location. However, when I charged at a Greenlots charger a few hours later, I had no issues.
    It it was different charger brands that you tried, I would make an appointment with a dealer to have it checked.
     
  3. Chris-Ca

    Chris-Ca New Member

    I had that happen last night at one, but when I moved to the one next to it, it worked. Faulty station, I assumed. Did you go to a different location to try again?
     
  4. ericy

    ericy Active Member

    The other thing you might do is check plug share, and see if others are reporting similar problems.
     
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  5. Also make sure no charging schedule activated. May be bypassed by pushing the button beside the bars indicator in the charge port as shown starting at 3:14 of this video:
     
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  6. Does scheduled charging pertain to DC also? I would have thought not but it's not mentioned in the manual, nor have I tried it.
     
  7. Just trying to eliminate a possible cause, not sure either
     
  8. You might enjoy this ... a Tritium Veefil RT blew its cover off a week ago here while charging a tourist's EV. A few other units are getting revisions to avoid a repeat performance. No announcement on the cause yet.
    biiger pic.jpg
     
  9. hobbit

    hobbit Active Member

    Wow... that really is a monster SMPS, isn't it?? The Chargepoint 50k
    units hereabouts seem to be Veefils.

    _H*
     
  10. The part hanging out appears to be the inductor (filter) for the negative DC wire, according to my inspection of close-up photos. That and many other components are liquid cooled with the radiator at the base. The (EMI) enclosure must be sealed well as a rapidly-outgassing component produced enough pressure to break all the fasteners and pop the cover. Most chargers in NZ are this same model.
     
  11. Etienne Savard

    Etienne Savard New Member

    UPDATE: with colder weather, problem is back... :(

    No charge scheduling, the DC Fast Charger I tried were used by other EV minutes before trying them, they were working fine. Seems related to the outside temperature, and the mechanical lock freezing / blocked.

    Two weeks ago, when I first had the problem, after trying 4 differents DC fast chargers, I parked my car inside an indoor parking and charged successfuly using level 2 charger (delaying my return trip by a couple hours). The next day, I tried again to DC fast charge with the same brand of charger: no issue... Probably 3-4 hours indoor was enough to melt the ice inside the lock (my theory).

    This morning, it's -11C in sunny Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada. I decided to give it a go, just to make sure, and try to use a DC fast charger while I don't really need it (I'm 10 km away from home and my level 2 charger). I have the same problem I had 2 weeks ago: no DC fast charging. It abort after 12-13 seconds.

    So, it seems to be related to cold (freezing) temperature, and to be intermittent, and not related to the charging station at all. I also got the dreaded yellow triangle with the "EV!"... Power cycle the car, warning gone.

    Here is a video I took for my dealer to have a look at (they don't have DC fast charger, and I believe the problem will be gone when they bring the car inside...).

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/L5p3P7ogW8f4vGf2A
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2019
  12. Another thought, curious if the voltage of 12 V accessory battery is low and when cold doesn't have enough power to engage the contactor ? What is the residual voltage , should be at least 12.4 V.
     
  13. Etienne Savard

    Etienne Savard New Member

    Last time I checked, it was 14V. The car was ON.
     
  14. Best to measure the voltage when the car has not been in run mode for several hours, eliminating the converter. There probably actually exists an (indicator) warning that the accessory battery is having some grief keeping up although I have never seen one yet (other EVs included) but have had misc. problems which external topping up seemed to have solved.
    The Kona EV converter generally supplies 14.4 V when the car is in run mode.
    But this is a long shot and the possibility of a charge port assembly defect is entirely possible.
     

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