Covid is a disease of the old and sick

Answer me this. Why do you believe that Covid is a virus that can be eradicated with the vaccine? If it is about herd immunity, then explain why there has never been a mandatory flu vaccine for the whole population in the past. This doesn't make sense. Something is obviously off.

Think about it. Imagine that the whole population were to get the flu vaccine on year. Not only would it not stop transmission of the flu entirely, but it would only be effective for one year and it would do nothing to the following seasons. The exact same is true with covid. Why wouldn't it be? The covid vaccine only lasts 6 months (maybe even less), hence the boosters.

Do you not see the scenario that's developing? If 100% of the population got vaccinated tomorrow, none of the measures would drop. Right now, restaurants, retail stores, etc are demanding proof of vaccination. This has never happened before and it is utterly insane. The end result from all this is that everyone will be forced to take the covid vaccine every year and you won't be able to get access to anything unless your vaccine passport is up to date. This is tyranny and its probably one of the reasons why it never happened with the flu vaccine.

(The only times any proof of vaccination were ever required historically were for school admission and certain vaccines for work. Never anything else for most jobs, aside from medical jobs.)

Why feel bad to mention it? Too many Americans are fat and this is actually a major epidemic - far worse than covid will ever be. What's even worse is that the "body positivity" movement has been spreading absolute lies saying things like "healthy at any size." Virtually nobody in the mainstream is countering that narrative.

 

You liar. The far left politicized every aspect of the pandemic from the beginning. Secondly, Joe Biden promised in his campaign that he would not impose a vaccine mandate. Geez. If progressives didn't have double standards, then they wouldn't have any standards at all.

Secondly, you need to specify what supposed metric of failure because you keep using cases, which don't actually matter, when the whole discussion is about hospitalization and deaths.

 

Censorship is for losers.

 

Nah. Flu and covid are pretty comparable. There just wasn't a vaccine for covid initially and there isn't really anything like tamiflu for covid yet, so covid looks worse. Also remember that a bunch of covid patients were put in nursing homes in certain states, so things got way worse there.

For both the flu an covid, it matters who gets the vaccine. If all the old and unhealthy got the vaccine and not the young and healthy, then hospitalizations and deaths wouldn't be far lower. If all the young and healthy got the vaccine and not the old and unhealthy, deaths and hospitalization would be much higher - you wouldn't even notice a change in the numbers now if it were just the young and healthy that were vaccinated. That being said, age and health status are the largest predictor for deaths and hospitalizations before vaccine status, which is why it's far more important for the old and unhealthy to get vaccinated. So, rate of vaccination isn't really what's important, it's who is vaccinated.

It wasn't that people lacked the impetus or will to eradicate the flu, they just realized that it was impossible without destroying the entirety of civilization. The same is true with covid. Covid is nothing like polio. Polio has 3 variants total, mutates slowly, and the vaccine remains effective for a lifetime. Covid is wildly different - hundreds of variants, mutates quickly, and the vaccine only lasts 6 months. Herd immunity isn't magical. There are viruses that are impossible to elimate and the flu and covid are two examples. It is better to just vaccinate the old and unhealthy and just live with it.

Nah. Like I said earlier, it is not possible to eradicate covid without destroying society. If there is any 'big pharma' conspiracy it would be to have the vaccine and booster mandated to the whole population indefinitely. If this ends up happening, it may likely not be for that, but there was all the nonsense around the swine flu vaccine.

Again, this isn't polio, so the situation isn't comparable. The correct thing to do is tell the old and unhealthy to get vaccinated and to be mindful of interactions and just let the young and healthy engage normally. The next thing that should be done is to address preventable chronic health issues like obesity and the side effects of drug use. Promote healthy diets and exercise. Those are the best courses of action.

This is true, a lot of the lockdown measures ended up backfiring and making other problems worse. Obesity is a major crisis. People in general do spend too much time inside and on devices, but that is a different discussion .

 

lel. This doesn't even correct for population size differences, let alone breaking things out by age or health status. These are garbage stats. Face it Bob, you are too biased and are too statistically illiterate to make any meaningful decisions for society as a whole.

 

lol. This didn't change anything. New York and Florida both have different population sizes, so you need to show these stats per capita or at least per 100,000. Secondly, they do not have the same age demographics either and that needs to be broken out per capita or per 100,000. Florida is the stereotypical retirement state, so the old population is going to be much higher.

As things are now, that graph can't be used to draw any meaningful conclusions about anything. You only post it because you desperately want some one-up on your political enemies. This is the problem with viewing everything through a hyper partisan lens. It clouds your judgement and then you use bad statistics, misrepresent what people are saying, lie about things that have occurred in the past, etc. Progressives are absolutely the worst about doing this.

 

lol. I can post comics too.

 

The funniest part about this is that you actually believe that covid is more serious than it actually is.