Automatic Braking?

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by bobcubsfan, Jun 16, 2018.

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  1. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    Three times today I was pulling into a parking space. When I got within about a foot or so of the barrier in front of the car, it seemed to stop itself. Comments?
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  3. loomis2

    loomis2 Well-Known Member

    That shouldn't happen.
  4. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    Brakes do come on automatically when using cruise control. And the BRAKE warning appears on the dash.
  5. alyssai

    alyssai Member

    It happened to me once. It's the crash mitigation braking doing it's job. I thought it was weird but good to know that it's working!
  6. vicw

    vicw Active Member

    You had cruise control active when within a foot of a barrier? I have difficulty imagining why you would want to do that, or did I misread your post?

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  8. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    No. Just saying that braking while using cruise control works.
    Good to know. I am going to try it with crash test dummies, er, trash cans.
  9. KentuckyKen

    KentuckyKen Well-Known Member

    I’ve got just the opposite. On the road, the CMB will flash and beep when I approach a car in front of me (usually when it’s turning and I get closer to it than normal following distance) but it has yet to apply the brakes. I’ve tried playing chicken with it with my foot hovering over the pedal, but it always wins and I end up applying the brakes.
    How close is it supposed to let you get before it brakes?
    Anybody got any experience with this?

    I’m happy with when it decides to warn me but not with it not applying the brakes when I think it should have.
  10. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    There are warnings in the user manual, of course. We really need to be in control, unlike our Tesla cousins who can now buy a device to defeat the "hands on wheel" requirement.
  11. vicw

    vicw Active Member

    That is the #1 unanswered question for me. Will it actually stop the car before I hit that brick wall? Dying to know the answer, but afraid to try it.

    Based on your post, it sounds like it may actually work. That's very encouraging.

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  13. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    Any volunteers to stand in front of my car?
  14. alyssai

    alyssai Member

    It made a complete stop when I was pulling into a curb parking spot that had a car parked in front of me. I can't recall how far it was. I don't think I was going into the spot too fast either.
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  15. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW Well-Known Member

    Bob, I really feel for you man. Your car seems to be an outlier. I work in accounting and have spent many years in manufacturing accounting. Folks would be surprised how much variance and deviation that can happen on the assembly line. Keep reporting your problems to the dealership/Honda. I hope that it is not the case but manufacturing deviations/defects seem to amplify over time. It would be great if you could locate/identify the cars manufactured in the series right before and after yours but that would be nearly impossible. Good luck and we will continue to help you in anyway we can.

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  16. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    Hi Anthony. My major was accounting as well. This thing would blow Spock's mind. Illogical.
  17. vicw

    vicw Active Member

    Can you describe the barrier for us?

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  18. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    A support in a parking structure about 2 feet wide.
  19. bpratt

    bpratt Active Member

    I've had that same thing happen to me twice. The car stopped about 6 feet away from the car in front of me. I had to pull in a little more to park.
  20. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    We should all observe that behavior. Seems pretty sweet if it works all the time.
  21. vicw

    vicw Active Member

    I understand that you had a good reason to pull up closer than the 1 foot distance when the car braked automatically. On the other hand, I almost would prefer that mine would behave as yours did, avoiding a potential crash, but apparently it isn't designed or intended to do that.

    The question of what my car, with CBMS enabled, would do in that same circumstance, has bugged me ever since I bought the Clarity, so I just conducted my own little test, with the car in Drive, seat belt on, idling with the brake off, creeping forward toward an empty rubber trash can. It provided no braking, and it just rolled into the can, with no damage to the can or the car, but I won't be trying that test soon with any 2 foot concrete posts.

    Other than CBMS being enabled or disabled, I can't imagine what could be different with your car that would cause it to stop as it did. I hope Honda can figure it out and resolve it for you.
  22. Viking79

    Viking79 Well-Known Member

    I have had collision mitigation system brake, it warns with light as most of us have seen, then if you get even closer (or they are deaccelerating quickly) it will start braking. It has to be closer than any normal person feels comfortable.

    I had it happen on the test drive when someone in front of me slammed their brakes. I was already reacting, but the car was quicker. This was just the second stage, where it is braking lightly.
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  23. bobcubsfan

    bobcubsfan Active Member

    I will continue to observe. But, at this stage of the "automation" I would not put too much faith in it.

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