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  1. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Spontanious on Wednesday, I decided to drive to a Tunica casino, Horseshoe, to test a craps math model. Quick charges in Athens and Tupelo reached the Horseshoe casino that has free Tesla charging. A couple of hours at the craps table confirmed my math model.

    Bet the table minimum on the PASS, COME, and their respective DONT which have a 1.41-1.40% house advantage. Then add 3x odds to the bet diluting the house advantage to less than 0.5%. There are more effects but this was just a brief test. Never forget it is called GAMBLING, not WINNING. Regardless, the casino was generous and my winnings paid for charging and road snacks.

    Between our Tesla cars and Supercharging, a Tunica trip is affordable, reliable, and easy. Autopilot did all the driving while I just supervised.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I'm not fond of 'online' casinos based in part with my experience with casino games on my laptop. I have two craps games and the results suggest their random number code is different and not that good.

    As an exercise to understand the craps rules, I wrote a craps simulator using the built-in RAND() code. I used time since epoc to initialize it. But testing it by running large numbers failed to generate the expected 1.41 and 1.40 house advantage. I soon found c code for a better random number generator and it significantly improve the expected house advantage.

    So earlier this year I wrote another craps simulator using the built in RAND() routines. I thought surely after two decades the built-in RAND() code would be 'less bad.' It isn't.

    Google scholar pointed me to a paper, "Portable Random Number Generators" Gerald P. Dwyer and K.B. Williams, Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta, October 1999. I am still digesting this paper but I'm confident I'll find source code for a better random number generator.

    A harder problem is money management. It turns out that significant gains tend to happen early in a craps session. I really need to leave the table with my winnings and come back later. I also need to 'bug out' when losing. This is a hard problem.

    BTW, I use $30 for both odds and lay odds. This ensures payouts even on 6 or 8 are to integer dollar values. The ratios based on $30 then become:
    • $6 minimum gives 5x odds
    • $10 minimum gives 3x odds
    • I don't play $15 minimum tables as that would be 2x odds
    This also allows me to calculate the amount of money I need to bring for a fair number of trials:
    • $6 + $30 = $36 per trial so $360 gives at least 10 trials
    • $10 + $30 = $40 per trial so $400 gives at least 10 trials
      • Or 11 trials at a $6 table.
    Bob Wilson
     
    Last edited: Jun 1, 2023
  4. LouisShaman

    LouisShaman New Member

    Your impromptu Tunica trip sounds like a blast! I must go there too
     
  5. LouisShaman

    LouisShaman New Member


    Testing that craps math model and enjoying some Tesla charging while having a bit of fun at the casino – what a combo! If you like casinos, you should also check 카지노사이트, though. Thanks for sharing your experience; it's inspiring for fellow Tesla enthusiasts like me.
     
  6. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Never forget, it is called 'gambling', not 'winning.' But you can minimize the House Advantage. <GRINS>

    Bob Wilson
     
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  8. LouisShaman

    LouisShaman New Member

    Your strategy of betting on the PASS, COME, and respective DONT bets with added odds to lower the house advantage is a smart approach. It's essential to remember that casinos are all about the thrill of gambling, but it's fantastic when it works in your favor.
    Speaking of gambling thrills, if you ever want to diversify your gaming experience, you might want to explore some of the best online slot games. They can add an extra layer of entertainment to your casino adventures.
     
  9. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Finally got enough miles and hours to share insights on 2023.44.30.5.1:
    • Stop light and emergency stop seting - to reduce false "phantom braking" from earlier versions, I set it "late." But I noticed approaching stop lights and signs, the car did not slow down, almost seemed like it would run the light. Changing the setting to "early", the car moderately slowed. But false slow downs (i.e., less bad phantom brake events) returned from even a car creeping to the edge of my lane. The "middle" setting has not been tested.
    • Unpainted merge or exit lanes - less severe, the car more slowly tries to center in the suddenly "two lane wide" lane. Acceptable but some curious behavior when a car is there too. One time, it blocked car in a merging instead of doing a lane change to let them in.
    • Lane trimming for large vehicles - perfectly fine as it will nibble to the far side of lane from oversized vehicles.
    • Got one strike - the much improved navigation gives optional routes with an indicated time effect. However, study of the map too long without sunglasses on, the eye tracker gave me a strike. Lesson learned, always drive with sunglasses on when you can so the eye tracking is defeated.
    Overall, less bad. Nagging seems reduced but then I might have changed my driving closer to what the system permits. Adding the A2Z, CCS-1 kit, paid for itself, ~$450, with a direct route instead of a long dogleg between Tunica and Huntsville. I also found a 'free for one hour', 50 kW ChargePoint, fast DC charger. I stayed longer (but not long enough) on the free charger just to minimize the cost at the next CCS-1 charger.

    On this trip:
    • 8 hrs Huntsville to Vicksburg with two great SuperChargers, $22.
    • 5 hrs to Tunica with 95% free charge and two SuperChargers, $16. There is a CCS-1 option driving along the river route, fewer miles and slower speeds. A GM dealer has a CCS-1 charger, a little pricy and part of "Flo", Canadian-based, network, but ChargePoint record looks reliable.
    • 6 hrs to Huntsville with 95% free charge at Horseshoe and two CCS-1 chargers. First CCS-1 Chargepoint was 50 kW free for first hour but I should have waiting an extra 20 minutes to minimize expensive charge at second CCS-1, 65 kW station, $15. It was only expensive because dogs and I needed a biology break and food service was slow.
    Of the two Vicksburg casinos:
    • Waterview - very nice, free room and three L2, J1772 chargers. But craps table ($10) opens at 5 PM, quickly filled by the local craps club (be there at the beginning,) and; closed at midnight.
    • River Walk - excellent promo chips. Craps table ($10) opens ~9 AM and closes ~1:30 AM. No chargers but nice multi-story parking garage.
    Of the three Tunica casinos:
    • Fitzgeralds - no L2 chargers; 6-8 hours best craps game ($10 minimum); more utilitarian room (no local broadcast TV stations), and; a charge for fast WiFi access. Nice to visit when craps table is open but room is kinda Motel 6 quality.
    • Horseshoe - two L2 Tesla chargers with cones to prevent ICE; 24x7 craps game ($15 minimum); reasonable room, and free WiFi.
    • Goldspike - three L2 Tesla chargers on parking garage level 3 (low ICE risk); 24x7 craps ($15) but sometimes "crapless" table ($15 minimum) and; best promotions, $250 table play.
    Bob Wilson
     
  10. isaacknox

    isaacknox New Member

    Wow, sounds like you had quite the adventure at the casino! Testing out a craps math model on a spontaneous trip to Tunica must have been exciting.
     
  11. Bluettel

    Bluettel New Member

    Your strategy of betting the table minimum with added odds seems like a smart approach to minimize the house advantage. And it's great to hear that your winnings covered your expenses for charging and snacks on the road.
     
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  13. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    My current trip to the Electric Truck conference included some additional sessions at the Horseshoe Casino in Shelbyville. I confirmed some elements of the model as well as refinement of some subtle, somewhat obscure features. Lesson's learned in the school of hard knocks.

    Bob Wilson
     
  14. Bluettel

    Bluettel New Member

    It's true what you said about gambling - it's all about the thrill of the game, not just winning. But it's awesome that you were able to have a successful trip while enjoying the convenience of Tesla charging and autopilot driving.
    If you're ever looking to explore more gambling options, you might want to check out btc casinos. They offer a unique experience with the use of cryptocurrency and a wide range of games to choose from.
     
  15. OebDowns

    OebDowns New Member

    Hey all! Sounds similar! I had a spontaneous Wednesday trip to the local casino to test my blackjack strategy. Quick charges in town, and the casino offered free EV charging. I spent a couple of hours at the tables and confirmed my strategy: sticking to the basics – table minimum bets, smart plays, and setting win/loss limits. It's all about balancing the thrill. I also find the website https://us.onlinegamblers.com/ very helpful when exploring different online casinos. They have many gambling tips, too. Best of luck to all the gamblers here!
     

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