2022 Mini SE - In Focus: Range!

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by GvilleGuy, Aug 22, 2021.

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  1. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    I took what I've learned about range in the 4 months of ownership, as well as participating on this forum, and tried to put together a helpful video about range. The veteran EV drivers won't learn much, but, I did create a free IOS Shortcut which can be downloaded which allows you to quickly calculate estimated range. The link is in the video description. And I managed some butter smooth driving footage with my new GoPro!
    • Why was it designed with this range?
    • What real world range can you expect?
    • How does that compare to the Mini’s range computer?
    • How do you calculate estimated range left on the battery?
     
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  3. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Another well-produced video. I liked seeing the math. However, the BMW i3 uses a Samsung battery that could not be adapted to the SE. The SE uses a Chinese CATL battery.
     
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  4. Novadar

    Novadar Active Member

    Great video. Nice iPhone Shortcut. Unfortunately (or Fortunately in my case) I am an Android user. I'll need to look into creating the same.
     
  5. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    I'll correct that in a comment - thanks!
     
  6. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    I fully appreciate the effort you went to in creating this (and other) videos, as well as the iOS calculator. I have to admit, though, that the mathematical example you chose seemed a bit...convoluted? If you've used 3/4s of the battery to drive 100 miles, then you should be able to go 4/3s x 100 = 133.33... miles before it is completely empty.

    Admittedly, the mental math would be harder if not dealing with such nice round numbers. But, I couldn't help myself in jumping ahead to the answer!
     
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  8. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    Agree - multiple ways to get there. I used a simple battery example, but many other results be more difficult to do in your head than that.
     
  9. Godfrey

    Godfrey Member

    Thanks for another great video. Best part for me was finding out about the button on the turn signal stalk. I used it today and it's great to see actual battery percentage and also dynamic kWh/100km (or mi/kWh depending on your setting) rather than just the cumulative average that I always have on the main display (which I reset after each charge). I still have a lot to learn about this car. That button is a real find.
     
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  10. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    Always happy to hear that info I provided has helped!! Thanks.
     
  11. polyphonic

    polyphonic Well-Known Member

    Very helpful, as always! Those 8 LED fuel lights seem especially silly now. I guess they wanted a one-size-fits-all approach for gas and EV. I can honestly say I have never paid attention to it. Just give us the battery percentage like a smartphone!

    Regarding the GOM, it looks like some BMWs have a "fuel correction factor" in the service menu. Ours just has a "correction factor." I haven't tested it, but that is likely for the speedometer. Maybe Bimmercode has something? I have been meaning to connect with the i3 version of Bimmercode.
     
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  13. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Perhaps a nearly-prescient MINI instrument panel designer anticipated an LED shortage in the future? I hope that designer didn't receive a bonus for eliminating the cost of 2 LEDs. Both electric- and gas-fueled MINI drivers would benefit from having 10 easy-to-evaluate-at-a-glance LEDs.
     
  14. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    The "ideal" number of segments is always a matter of debate. My old Leaf had 12, my Bolt has 20, and my SE has 8. Honestly of those, I find 8 to be the most awkward. I personally liked 12 because it can show fractions of 1/2, 1/3, and 1/4 (among others). Having that 1/3 in there was a nice touch. The Bolt's 20 segments is fine, especially because they have a tic mark every 5 so you can easily see the 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 points. But while 20 is fine for 240 miles of range (12 miles per bar), it would be overkill for 110 miles of range (only 5.5 miles per bar). My vote for the SE would be 12.
     
  15. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    MINI should have just committed to the digital display, instead of the hybrid approach. No reason they couldn't have shown the exact SoC percentage on the display. This seems to be another ICE holdover, since measuring fluid in a tank is not as fine-grained as getting a charge level from a battery.
     
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  16. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I'm completely onboard for fixing the battery charge gauge by adding more resolution, but I like the mechanical needle on the E-Power gauge. It would take a very high-res panel to avoid needle-jaggies if they wanted to make it electronic. So that hybridization meets with my approval.
     
  17. GetOffYourGas

    GetOffYourGas Well-Known Member

    But they do provide the exact SoC on the display. Just hit the button on the stalk to cycle through your options, and SoC in 1% resolution is readily available.
     
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  18. Well, as the Mini used to be a British car, and there used to be 12 pence to a shilling before Decimal Day (1971) - why not 12 indeed! ;-)
     
  19. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    Which makes the 8-segment gauge even less sensible, in my opinion.
     
  20. ColdCase

    ColdCase Active Member

    BTW, some trims have two small buttons on the end of the stalk. The bottom one cycles through the options. The top one turns auto high beams on and off, dunno if it does anything else. Large fingers are a bit of a disadvantage here :).
     
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  21. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The battery charge gauge shouldn't have to play second-fiddle (info-wise) to the ring around the center display, which must have more than 8 segments.
     
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  22. NextEv

    NextEv Member

    Approximately, and based on the real world experience, how many miles does each battery bar (on the battery charge gauge) equals to?
     
  23. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    12.5% SoC, which is safely 12.5 miles but could be 15 or more miles depending on how efficiently one drives. One nice thing about an electric vehicle is the mileage per % stays constant to the end since the measurement is more accurate than a tank of fluid and the batteries don't get any lighter as they get depleted. Unlike ICE where the fuel vanishes, changing the weight of the vehicle.
     
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