2020 Kia E-Niro VESS/Reverse Chime defeat solution

Discussion in 'Kia Niro' started by ENirogus, Jun 5, 2021.

  1. iTest1

    iTest1 New Member

    Thanks... Is there a diy? I have not opened up that part of the dash yet.
     
  2. Crash

    Crash Member

    Do you recall where you purchased it? Some quick searching did not find any Kia parts store (even a couple in Europe) which recognized that part #. Thanks
     
  3. Crash

    Crash Member

    The first post in thread describes how to pop that component out.
     
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  4. rcnesneg

    rcnesneg Member

    I just sold my niro and have one from a wrecked car from Portugal - I can send it to you for $100 including shipping.
     
  5. iTest1

    iTest1 New Member

    Dealer here in the US could not order this part for me. 93700G5FH0WK
     
  6. rcnesneg

    rcnesneg Member

  7. Blevinsderek06

    Blevinsderek06 New Member

    Do you know how much power is running over these wires? I really didn't want to tap the wires on the harness but I had some spare raspberry pi gpio wires laying around that I thought could work. I have some of the male tipped wires and if you take off the black plastic cover, it exposes the crimped male tip. That tip easily fits down inside the wire harness connector. It feels snug and when it's secured in place with electrical tape, it's not moving.

    My only concern though is how small those gpio wires are. You can pretty much brake them in half without any effort. I hooked it up and tested and it does in fact work. And it will be very easy to remove since there was no wire tapping needed. But I'm concerned of the wires burning out. Raspberry pi can use them and run 5v over them, but I don't know if that is good enough for this application.
     
  8. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    They carry no current. They are signal wires. Remember that without the switch these wire serve no purpose, so there is no damage done if something goes wrong. Except the mod won't work
     
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  9. 3dwardX

    3dwardX New Member

    I have this part if somebody need it, just msg me. :)
    Dealer just bought 2 of them by mistake and second one is useless for me.
     

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  10. Tim Mangini

    Tim Mangini New Member

    This is exactly what I did. It took less than 30 minutes and didn't involve all of the difficult panel-work and re-wiring that is the primary subject of this thread. Nothing against that method - it looks elegant and may be better in some way - I just wanted to save time and effort.
    I found a fuse-tap on Amazon I could just plug into the fuse panel and wire it through a switch that I mounted in the fuse panel. I flick the switch off before going into reverse and it disables Vess (and a few other things that are on that circuit that aren't critical at low speed), and then flick it on when I am going forward. I also bought a spare fuse panel so that I can remove it when I go to the dealer to avoid any warranty questions. We feel the relief of not having to listen to the obnoxiously loud backup sound every time we drive the car.
     
  11. Mark W

    Mark W Active Member

    CT
    Sorry if I missed this somewhere in the thread, I tried to look for it. Is there a way to muffle the speaker so that the sound is not so loud? Messing with the wiring is scary to me. Thanks.
     
  12. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Difficult panel work? you mean remove the fuse panel cover? turn 3 screws or whatever?

    seriously, but hey by all means disable other parts of the vehicle because you don't want to take the fuse panel off
     
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  13. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Not really without taking the grill apart
     
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  14. BradTheGeek

    BradTheGeek New Member

  15. BradTheGeek

    BradTheGeek New Member

    Got it done. PXL_20230723_234144517.jpg
    Made some videos, going to edit those together. If they're good enough, I'll put it up on YouTube.
     
  16. BradTheGeek

    BradTheGeek New Member

    Here is the video if anyone wants...
     
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  17. hvluve

    hvluve New Member

    What's the blue/black wire? Does Kia sorento have the same wire?
     
  18. ENirogus

    ENirogus Active Member

    Read the instructions at the beginning, and the diagrams explain it. Who knows if the Sorrento has the wire, maybe it does maybe it doesn't. What year? pay for access to the wiring diagrams and find out.
     
  19. KIA Niro 2020

    KIA Niro 2020 New Member

    ENirogus and others,

    Thanks for all the details in this thread. We have a 2020 EV Niro and this is the only thing I would change on this car.

    I've tapped into the blue-black, pink and black wires with red MCIGICM T-Tap Wire Connectors and hooked up APIELE 12mm Momentary Push Button.
    Somehow this does not want to work for me.
    1. Can I check the T-Tap connections on the wires with a multimeter?
    I assume nominal 12V between black and blue-black?
    Same for Pink-Black?
    2. Can I test if this works by momentarily touching the blue-black and black wires, in case my push button switch is faulty?

    TIA
    Items used:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081PVPZZM?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091CVMG49?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

     
  20. KIA Niro 2020

    KIA Niro 2020 New Member

    I figured it out. Somehow the instructions in the earlier pdf in this thread threw me off.
    After scrutinizing the youtube from #176 in this thread:
    https://www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/2020-kia-e-niro-vess-reverse-chime-defeat-solution.11245/page-9#post-201631
    all worked and I also mounted the push button in the same spot.
    Thanks again to everyone that contributed to solving this 'garbage truck backup sound'.
     

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