EVGo 50kw chargers

Sometimes while on a road trip , you need 90% SOC to make it to a destination ,or another DCFC. Idling fee should be applied when an EV as finished charging.

 

Charging speed should be regulated so drivers know what to expect. Can't get near 350KW, don't use the DCFC. I think most EVs can auto detect between it's charge port ,and the charger to set KW. Chargepoint for example knows the size of my battery whenever I connect,and gives me a time to a full charge. ABB units can tell me when I will reach 80%.

I am with the camp where the public chargers should be billed at kWh. With an idle fee,plus tag,and towing enforcement because there are EVholes and ICEholes. Rational for kWh billing,different EV brands throttle at different SOC,so the hourly rate can really gouge some drivers like the Leaf [rapidgate,not liquid cooled],and Bolt that throttles at about 50% .Fees,the kWh shouldn't be any more than the local hydro rate given EVs are actually contributing back by reducing transport emissions. There's the North American billions , USD trillions globally in subsidies oil gets,benefiting ICE after all.

 

I think we all have good points.
As for charging, getting to 80% on a fast charger is reasonable, after that I personally would just move to an AC charger to get to 90% if needed. At least if there is somebody in line. If not, I'd be at my car and move if somebody shows up.
I hope that over the next months and years we and (mostly) charging companies get more accustomed to it and figure out the best way for everybody.

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Agree with the 80%.Vacated a DCFC the other day for a Bolt driver who showed up. Also will wait at the DCFC if I plan on going over 80% SOC.Especially if on a road trip where I can explain to another driver what I am doing. Our Kona EV don't get throttled close to 7kw AC until it's past 90%. We can see ~ 25kw at 90% SOC.

 

Teslabjorn just made a great video about fair pricing for charging: How to set a fair fast charging price

I totally subscribe to his suggestions.

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@electriceddy Most Petri Canada charging stations in BC seem to be “coming soon”, not actually built yet (I was looking at coverage between the Okanagan and the Lower Mainland tonight). With the elevation gain over the Coquihalla, it looks like more fast charging needs to be added in this area (eg, Coqu Summit).

 

Lots of fast charging up that way..., Coq summit, Merrit, Kamloops. Even Leafs should have no trouble going that way. Same with the south #3 route, Hope, Hope Slide, Manning Park, Princeton... It's just up north where we need more fast chargers.

 

Electrify America stations are terrible. The fee is for the highest rate your car can accept, not what it charges at. Kona's, being able to accept 77, put you into the middle tier, even though you never hit the middle tier rate. This tier is about 4x as much as the low tier.

Also, its such a PITA to actually get it to accept the car, and start charging. I have not had any luck getting it to start a session in less than 15 minutes.

 

You're right, their pricing structure is IMHO the worst in the industry. I didn't have problems charging the one time I used their chargers. Despite the over priced fees.

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Wow, I've never seen those in my area.

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