Storage and 12-volt battery

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by GloMini, Apr 16, 2022.

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  1. GloMini

    GloMini New Member

    So here a car storage concern I know most electric cars have a main battery that drive the car but they also have a 12-volt system (i.e., battery) to run computers ETC. So, my question is for long term storage (there are times the car will be stored for 2 or 3 months) I know the main will be fine on a level 1 or 2 will I need to put the 12-volt battery on a maintainer. I know if it goes dead the car is pretty much dead. And if I do need to use a maintainer were is the battery located. I just researched the BMW IX which I have and it monitors the 12-volt battery and will trickly charge it using the main battery if the system detect a need.
     
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  3. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    MINI hides the 12-Volt battery, but you can attach to the positive terminal under that red cap in front of the driver's side windshield-wiper.

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  4. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    That's exactly how the 12 V battery works in the SE, you absolutely do not want to hook up a maintainer. The SE automatically keeps the 12 V battery fully charged via the high-voltage battery system. In addition, the SE goes to sleep and does not drain the 12 V battery so it should last for much longer than a few months when parked.
     
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  5. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    How does the app get data from my SE when my SE is asleep? Does my SE send its current data to the MINI server before it goes to sleep? Does that mean if my SE is towed away (hopefully on a flatbed truck), it won't update its location for the app?
     
  6. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    That would be my guess. The SE only "phones home" for significant events, like when you lock/unlock the car, or at the beginning/end of a trip (e.g. switch drive-ready state on/off).

    Probably not. You may have to send a command via the app for it to update its status.
     
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  8. Can you access the trip details at the end of a trip, like speed, temp, power consumption, mileage consumed, trip time?
     
  9. I was worried about this after I ended up in hospital then imobile for 2 months. When I evenyually unlocked the car, the 12 volt battery was still showing 12.9 volts, which I though was pretty good. I had visions of having to use my compact boost starter on.
     
  10. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    This is one of the rare instances when owning a MINI Cooper SE causes agony: when you aren't allowed to drive it. Glad to hear you're out of the hospital and back into your SE!
     
  11. MichaelC

    MichaelC Well-Known Member

    If you use a third-party service like TRONITY (brief discussion in this thread), yes. The MINI app used to show this information (for just the last trip), but that feature was lost when they overhauled the app. Many of us have been anxiously waiting for BMW/MINI to reimplement that feature...but we've been waiting a long time.

    Oh--and I have noticed that if I leave an OBDII dongle plugged in, my SE doesn't "phone home" to the cloud as reliably.
     
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  13. Glad to be back too. My Mini’s certainly more comfortable than a hospital bed! ( faster too !)
     
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  14. Jim In Tucson

    Jim In Tucson Well-Known Member

    To OP: I suggest NOT leaving the SE plugged in during long-term storage. The 350v battery will keep the 12v battery maintained. And the 350v battery will last a very loooonnnng time.

    My greater concern would be a voltage surge or lightning that might damage the SE, or the EVSE.



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  15. Carsten Haase

    Carsten Haase Well-Known Member

    I don't know what sort of protections are built in to the EVSEs or the car but if you are concerned (like I was) you can install a whole house surge protector.

    I installed a Siemens FirstSurge Pro 140kA when I added my EVSE:

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  16. That’s a shame, they should bring that feature back to complement the charging history.
     
  17. Rexsio

    Rexsio Well-Known Member

    In Bmw I 3 was 20 Ah 12 V. Battery I just wander why Mini SE is equip with 50 Ah 12V .battery Which is 3 times heavier and you can crank 8 cylinder ICE bc of it size .That how I check health on my SE 12 V. Battery once a while I plug into cigarette plug Voltmeter to have idea how 12 V. Battery performs. 8DF04263-06DB-4056-A6A6-2205A2F1D50D.jpeg
     
  18. pictsidhe

    pictsidhe Well-Known Member

    I have had multiple incidences of '12v battery discharging' warnings when I've gone to drive my SE. If it was plugged in at the time, it will not have charged.
     
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  19. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    I had that issue too, turned out to be fob button pushes while key was in my pocket was constantly waking my SE.
     
  20. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    I drove my SE for the first time in 6 weeks and...

    ... nothing, really. It turned on exactly as normal, with no sign whatsoever that it hadn't been driven in a while. Only oddity is that the app doesn't show the couple of hours I charged it before switching it on.

    ETA: Car sat unplugged in our unheated-but-tuck-under garage at 37% charge. No detectable battery usage.
     
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  21. SameGuy

    SameGuy Well-Known Member Subscriber

    YUL
    So glad no Sentry.
     
  22. Puppethead

    Puppethead Well-Known Member

    I left my car parked unplugged for two weeks while on a train trip and I had absolutely no noticed drain during that time as well.
     
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