Will my SE still quality for tax credit

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by KCMOEV, Aug 7, 2022.

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  1. Aquavir

    Aquavir Active Member

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  3. CuriousGeorge

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  4. Phive_Phinger_Dan()

    Phive_Phinger_Dan() New Member

    I’m in the same position, but I’m not as confident because of this statement.
    “A contract is binding even if subject to a condition, as long as the condition is not within the control of either party.”
     
  5. fishbert

    fishbert Well-Known Member

    As I said in a recent comment on the last page, the IRS appears to be describing what will make them happy, not necessarily what the limits of the law are. There's gray area in between, and that's where one might be at risk of having to defend the claiming of the credit in court (if it ever gets that far). Everyone sitting in that gray area needs to make their own assessment as to whether that's a comfortable place for them to be, but if someone feels like they're being forced into cancelling an order, I'd certainly recommend a consultation with a tax attorney first.
     
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  6. polyphonic

    polyphonic Well-Known Member

    We need guidance on the guidance.
     
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  8. Alf_W

    Alf_W Active Member

    All I can say is---I'm glad I got mine when I did. I was able to get the Sig model (my preferred trim level), and the tax credit.

    So little clarity on the rules now, and the crop of US-assembled EV's available in 2022 is so....unappealing. Sorry to see this much uncertainty for new purchasers. I don't see why the bill couldn't phase the new rules in the new tax year and make it so much simpler for all of us.
     
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  9. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    What are you talking about? Doesn't everyone here lust after a Lincoln Navigator hybrid? The $7500 is just icing on the cake. I'm going to run right out and replace my 30+ mpg ICE car with one of these beasts...
     
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  10. Aquavir

    Aquavir Active Member

    What about that statement concerns you? If the only condition would be if you were getting dealer financing, and you are not applying for dealer financing then that clause wouldn’t apply. Also, one could argue that even if you did try for dealer financing, whether or not you qualify is out of both yours and the dealer’s hands, so it would still pass the test. Obviously this isn’t advice, but I really think a PO that specifically states that it can’t be cancelled unless dealer financing falls through fits the IRS requirement. I’m at least willing to argue the point with the IRS if it comes to it.
     
  11. Pooper SE

    Pooper SE New Member

    Final assembly in North America requirement for federal tax credit becomes effective today (https://afdc.energy.gov/laws/inflation-reduction-act), so unless you already purchased a Mini SE in the US or entered into a binding purchase contract (I'm not wading into those waters), the potential $7,500 federal tax credit is no longer available for the Mini SE.
     
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  17. Tommm

    Tommm Well-Known Member

    Partial solution? The dealer puts the car in service as a demo for a week. You get to demo it, and then buy it used?
    When does the $4,000 kick in? OK, then switch demo to lease. Lease it until the $4,000 kicks in, then buy it and get the $4,000 for a used EV?
     
  18. DavidD

    DavidD New Member

    (IANAL) The 5% rule looks like a generalized example to assist persons where your individual state may not have sufficiently defined contract laws.
     
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  19. teslarati97

    teslarati97 Well-Known Member

    The Cooper SE would have to be $25,000 or lower and 2+ years old.
     
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  20. fishbert

    fishbert Well-Known Member

    I must admit, I did briefly entertain the idea of the new tax credit for used EVs sparking renewed interest in European delivery programs.
     
  21. KCMOEV

    KCMOEV Member

    So I have a signed purchase order - but no non refundable deposit. What documents are needed when claiming the credit? Guessing that signed purchase order and the bill of sale info from the purchase of the car. So I file for the tax credit under the old rules as I believe I have a valid binding contract. What are the odds the IRS is actually going to audit me and argue whether or not the contract is binding?
     
  22. CuriousGeorge

    CuriousGeorge Well-Known Member

    Impossible to say, obviously, but it might be interesting to see if includingForm 8936 sets off any possible audit flags in current versions of, e.g., TurboTax. (IOW, have EV credits previously been under heightened scrutiny by the IRS?)

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8936.pdf
     
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