Kona EV "Winter Mode" - defined and condensed

Thank you for your answer. I tried 17-18C and just high enough fan speed last winter. Outside temperature was roughly -20. Car was preheated to twenty something to defrost the windows. The consumption was significantly lower compared to similar morning. I managed to get under 18 kWh/100km (3.45 mi/kWh or 5.56 km/kWh). My feet were a bit cold but it was due to my poor choice of shoes and socks.

 

Again, I’m most familiar with manual control of my TM3, but I have found that forcing the HVAC to always use fresh air (versus recirculate) in both the Kona and the TM3 eliminates any fogging up of the side Windows.

 

Maybe it is me, but the functionality of "Winter mode" is still confusing. Many contributions above make sense, yet some are contradictory. Battery heating (conditioning/plugged in while charging) makes sense, but using precious fuel to cut range in the middle of winter? I rather 'get there' and wait out longer charging. While plugged in you can heat (seat or even cabin) or go inside, if there is a place, to warm up.

I wish someone from Hyundai engineering would clear this up.

 

Winter is coming.. again! Has anyone considering modding their kona with "trigger battery heater" button? All the hardware to make it happen is already there, it is "simply" the matter of finding how to send the "plz turn battery heater on" message without interfering temperature safety thermostat.

 

All the hardware is *not* there in many regions' models, notably the heater and extra coolant plumbing.

_H*

 

Pix for the curious ...

 

@herode10: Thanks a lot for your Temperature/Chargin-power table. Are these values independent of which size battery is being charged?

 

Just found out that the 64kWh edition will charge with a max. of 75+kW and the 38kWh with about 45. So that answers my question.

 

Only applies to 64 kWh pack. The 39 kWh pack has a different cells configuration then the 64 kWh. The 64 kWh has 98 groups of 3 cells in parallel connected in serie, while the 39 kWh has 88 groups of 2 cells in parallel connected in serie. Because of this, the 39 kWh pack will accept 2/3 of the current that the 64 kWh can take and the battery pack voltage is lower which will limit furthermore the charging power.

 

Thanks for that background info. So i guess it was a good idea to get the 64 kW pack

 

We should be charged by kWh, period. There can be time limits with extra charges, if necessary. Can't believe that with all the software driven stations out there, they can't do that. And lack of Canada Measurement certification is no excuse. If necessary, demand it of a charging station company.

 

Yes, it's an absurd omission.

Ideally but if a charger is in high demand there needs to be a motivation to vacate so others can charge. Most of our 50kW DC units bill at 25 cents per kWh plus 25 cents per minute, which in practice works out to be more than twice what EE mentions for 50kW.