Traded my 19 base for Rav4 Prime

I love my 2018 Clarity Touring (bought end of 2017) and would not want to get rid of it, despite its obstinate infotainment system. The gas engine only runs a few minutes per year, but it is there when I need it. The feeling of ultra-quiet, smooth power is wonderful.

Things that might make me reconsider:

- A nice-looking $50K 500 mile BEV with widespread charging availability.
- A nice looking $50 k roadster.

None of these exist yet.

 

Honda X NV, made in China Honda EV Car

251 miles (400 km) range, 53.6kWh lithium ion battery, single 159bhp motor.

 

One should think twice about getting any Toyota as they have lobbied with tons of cash to reverse the Obama era increase in milage requirement and even gave money to climate change denying groups. See article in the press

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2019/10/28/gm-toyota-chrysler-side-with-white-house-fight-over-california-fuel-standards-exposing-auto-industry-split/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/business/toyota-california-emissions-honda-gm-chrysler.html

 

I assume you mean a BEV roadster. VW's ID.Buggy looked like it would be the first (not including Elon's 1st car, a modified Lotus), but then VW got cold feet. MINI is making EV roadster noises, but not very loud ones. There are rumors of a Porsche EV Boxster, but they're part of the cold-feet company--and if it does come to be, it won't cost as little as $50K. The big problem is protecting the occupants from the big battery in a rollover accident, so I assume all BEV roadsters will need to have a roll cage.

 

Right. Let’s all support VW. They have a spotless record when it comes to vehicular emissions.

 

You are correct on BEV Roadster. That's what I meant. Thanks
I agree that the design, safety, market, and price point are tough issues.

 

I am, admittedly, not completely familiar with the Ionic 5. Will the US version actually have Vehicle to House or Vehicle to Grid capability?

 

It has V2L (outlets), but not V2H or V2G.
V2H would allow it to power your house (as backup power but also load shaving), V2G would interface with the grid and allow it to borrow power from your EV during peak events

 

Not the best of sources, but searching comes up with multiple stories telling the same thing. Hybrids are a poor intermediary.

 

Then there's this:

https://i.redd.it/aw97k5v6hib21.jpg

 

That's the best joke in this thread.

 

Friends of ours, in So Cal, recently had solar panels and a battery backup installed. They didn’t go with the Powerwall. I believe they went with the LG battery.

We’re in the process of doing a solar panel upgrade, a new roof has turned the solar project into more that a remove and reinstall. Our lead acid battery backup is still in excellent condition, so we’ve opted to keep that component the same for now. One of the 4 solar installers who we contacted, only installs the Tesla Powerwall. They informed us that the Powerwall cannot be charged from a backup generator. That’s a no go for us.

Storing cheap energy in a car battery is easy. Extracting that energy for a purpose other than propelling the car, can be a challenge. Some Clarity owners have connected a 1500W inverter to the 12V battery to act as a small backup generator. Unless you can connect the battery to a transfer switch and a sub-panel to power the house, it’s pretty much useless sitting in the car.

 

That report isn’t biased at all.

Ultimately, it’s a matter of opinion. In my opinion, it is the best of both worlds.

 

If you only use the Clarity's engine for a few minutes per year, then why on earth would you need a BEV with a 500+ mile range?

Cheers

 

I was waiting for someone to ask that. The reason is range anxiety. I know it's somewhat irrational, like height anxiety, but it's still there.

 

That masterful wrap works only on a light-colored Clarity.

 

I would love to know how much that cost. Good looking!