Not a good sign for Ioniq 5

Yeah, the odds of me moving forward with my pre-order are very low. No loss since my 2021 Kona EV is running very well. Maybe the next model year of the I5 will have a rear wiper and have the bugs ironed out. Hyundai ... are you listening to your customers???

 

You think? Good question though and it's been months since BTS Hyundai/KIA commercials while BTS press onwards with Samsung products. Time will tell but a fairly good measure will be home (Korean) customers reaction, currently I think they are not very happy campers at the moment.

 

Let's not overspeculate, folks. That insideevs article is essentially just reporting the UPI report that has been floating around for a few daysish. We have no idea how common the problem is, nor how severe, nor any indication of the details of Hyundai's response. That said, there's every reason at this stage to think this is just early teething problems for a new model (which happens frequently) and not an indication of poor quality (we'll get a better sense for quality once there are more on the roads and we see more reviews).

I also wouldn't worry too much about the Kona thing: It's a massive undertaking in literally the worst circumstances to attempt such a thing since the technology was invented. Let's not forget the crippling supply chain problems that forced them to reduce production projections not to mention driven the prices of all manner of goods through the roof.

 

West coast US, got an email from local dealer that they are 30 days out from Ioniq 5 on the ground. Still no price and I got no guarantee from the dealer they wouldn't jack up the price for 'shortage' excuse. I would take the risk on the first generation but not for an extra 5-10k. Seems like zero purpose in the $100 deposit to Hyundai when you're not really dealing with them.

 

Am with you both, west coast also here and 5-10 k would exceed my budget, particularly since 30 days means the product potentially arrives with required recall work and according to a couple of master technicians, wide certification on the platform is still "in progress". I ruled out the EV6 and wouldn't mind passing up the FE HI5 to those who have higher confidence in the company so remain a bit skeptical due to what some consider the lack of (or reduced at best) communications out of Hyundai and Kia. Since there has been no publicized "winter" testing I think waiting out may also provide engineers time to reconsider improving technology or offerings like heat pumps and rear wipers for those driving in inclement or less than moderate climate conditions.

 

I wouldn't consider buying a Toyota EV at all. Their continued stance on BEVs being unwise means they won't have their hearts in it. Probably will do a half way job. So I'll pass

 

It looks like Toyota found some heart when they designed the 300-hp RAV4 Prime PHEV. Perhaps when you someday pass on a Toyota EV it won't be because Toyota is heartless, but because heartless dealers are gouging eager buyers with $10K mark-ups as they're now doing with the RAV4 Prime.

 

"Worth" doesn't take into account ego, status, and excess disposable income.

 

I haven't trusted Toyota since their cover-up scandal and $billion+ settlement in 2010-2011. I've owned a couple of Toyotas, and they used to make some of the best, highest quality cars. I will probably never buy another one, though.

 

Toyota to Pay $1.2B for Hiding Deadly ‘Unintended Acceleration’
https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/toyota-pay-12b-hiding-deadly-unintended-acceleration/story?id=22972214

 

I guess Rav4Prime top trim + $10K mark-up will be in the Ioniq 5 Ultimate price territory. No brainer to me.


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Are you factoring in a cheeky dealer markup on the Ioniq 5?

 

Every car company, or at least a lot of them, has had its share of f***-ups and scandals. Hyundai hasn't exactly covered itself in glory with its handling of Kona battery issues, but I don't know that they're worse than others. Early reviews of the Ioniq5 seem very positive.

 

Still far better than "you better park outside and watch your car while it charges, and don't charge above 90% and discharge below 30% or your CAR MAY CATCH ON FIRE".