FAULTY AC

Discussion in 'Clarity' started by LAF, Apr 16, 2021.

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  1. LAF

    LAF Active Member

    Just found out my 2018 Clarity AC is depleted of refrigerant, presumably because there is a leak or some other problem. It is $350 just to refill and search for leak then more to fix the problem. I noticed a problem late last summer but because of Covid, waited till my 30k checkup. Honda says because it is 3 months over the 3 year AC warranty they wont cover it. Bad enough they should deny coverage when only 3 months past 3 year date, not taking into account the pandemic seems outrageous to me. Anybody else have a similar problem or a suggestion on followup.
     
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  3. MrFixit

    MrFixit Well-Known Member

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  4. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    You'll see in the threads @MrFixit recommended that many (I may have been the first) experienced a leak in the AC condenser. Mine was replaced quickly under warranty, but people who had the problem later had problems because Honda didn't have the part in stock. You'll also see that the refrigerant isn't covered by the same warranty as the rest of the car, so you may get dinged for that.
     
  5. MrFixit

    MrFixit Well-Known Member

    I think you have a compelling argument that Honda should cover this. It may become a customer satisfaction issue that must be addressed at the corporate level. Do you have anything that can corroborate that it was bad at the end of last summer? If not, then it will be a tougher sell... The lesson is that you should have realized that you were within the warranty then and at least gotten the situation documented.
     
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  6. craze1cars

    craze1cars Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Honda kinda sucks with this stuff. Don’t buy another....
     
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  8. turtleturtle

    turtleturtle Active Member

    Sounds like a great solution for OP’s current problem.

    @OP - In other news, sometimes Honda does a goodwill claim. See if you or the dealership can escalate it.
     
  9. Robert_Alabama

    Robert_Alabama Well-Known Member

    I'd push them to cover it, can't hurt to try. My son's BMW 300e PHEV was a couple of months and 2k miles out of warranty and the NAV and control console (head unit) went out. About 3k for the part alone. Total repair was over 5k. The dealer escalated it within BMW and got approval for warranty coverage before they even talked to him about it. That bought a good deal of brand loyalty for him.
     
  10. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    When my 2nd gen-1 Insight's battery died a month out of warranty, my dealer applied for one of those goodwill claims and Honda picked up the cost of the battery, but I had to pay for the labor.
     
  11. turtleturtle

    turtleturtle Active Member

    That seems fair.
     
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  13. MrFixit

    MrFixit Well-Known Member

    Note:

    If you are technically inclined and have an interest in monitoring your A/C performance through the OBD2 port, then have a look at this post:
    https://www.insideevsforum.com/community/index.php?threads/budget-battery-capacity-readout.10531/page-12#post-128931

    It provides the means to obtain the A/C pressure using the Budget Battery Capacity Readout discussed in the thread...
    Pressure alone is not definitive (unless your refrigerant is essentially empty), but if we can gather some readings that represent nominal performance it could be useful.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2021
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  14. LAF

    LAF Active Member

    Just found out Honda will cover all costs of replacing leaky condenser after all, and I agreed to pay for freon refill. I guess I could have demanded they pick up latter as well since it was obviously caused by the defective condenser but I did not.
     
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  15. LAF

    LAF Active Member

    Just found out Honda will cover all costs of replacing leaky condenser after all, and I agreed to pay for freon refill. I guess I could have demanded they pick up latter as well since it was obviously caused by the defective condenser but I did not.
     
  16. craze1cars

    craze1cars Well-Known Member

    Great news! Take it and run! You did good.
     
  17. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Are condensers readily available now? A couple of years ago there was a shortage of them (possibly due to many bad ones being replaced).
     
  18. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The air-conditioning condenser in my Clarity (purchased in November, 2017) failed again. I had the first failed condenser replaced in 2019 and it lasted nearly 4 years. I just got a new one installed under warranty. I hope Honda improved it since 2019 to reduce their warranty expenditures.
     
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  19. MrFixit

    MrFixit Well-Known Member

    Did you have the opportunity to look at the bad condenser? Just wondering if it had the tell-tale oil stain surrounding the area where the leak was. Also, I assume if it was covered again, that there was no evidence of a strike from a stone, etc?
     
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  20. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    I didn't see it, but the service advisor told me the characteristic oil-stain was in evidence and there was no stone-strike damage.
     
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