Niro Automatic Features vs. Kona

I'm pretty sure that, just like others said here, the sensors and software are either identical or close to identical between the Kona and the Niro. The difference between the cars is the body and the interior and software interface to access all the functions but they do share almost exactly the same technology. There are settings on the Kona (and I assume on the Niro as well) where you can for example set the sensitivity of the FKA. You can set the sensors to "early" or "late" detection. LKA on the Kona is flawed but as others said, it's a tool to make you pay attention. Neither on the Kona or Niro it's meant to be what the Autopilot is on a Tesla. I have driven several other cars of other brands and the LKA had the same flaws as the ones on the Kona. Those systems aren't perfect or even close to perfect.. The closest you'll find is on Tesla cars. When it comes to the advanced features, Tesla is the most advanced. Nobody comes close. And... as we know, even Tesla's advanced system is not 100% perfect.. There have been accidents with autopilot, so, I would not "rely" on any of those features.. If you are worried about those features causing an accident, you can always turn them off. I have driven 25k miles in my Kona so far in less than 9 months and I have had no issue with any of them. Yes, the FKA warning goes off prematurely in some cases but it has never actually slammed the brakes prematurely, it just issued the warning fairly early..
I think that if you are deciding between the Kona and the Niro, it really only comes down to 2 things.

a) do you want slightly more space for passengers and cargo
or
b) do you want slightly more range

Maybe, some may have a preference for the software interface and dash layout of one or the other.
From a pure technology perspective, both are just about the same car.

You really can't go wrong with either one.

 

If you visit any Tesla forum you see many complaints about phantom braking and other Autopilot issues. Nobody has a perfect system and the dream of self-driving cars will likely remain for a very long time. In some ways the KIA/Hyundai implementation may actually be safer because it doesn't lull you into a false sense of security. Tesla's marketing department should really have just called it smart/adaptive/dynamic cruise control like everyone else.

 

My son has a Tesla model 3 and has experienced some of the autopilot bugs, like phantom braking, and many others. Haven't heard him talk about it recently, though, so maybe they are getting better with their testing. And yes, autopilot implies autonomous driving, and it definitely is not that. It is just a set of driver assist features, which all manufacturers are pursuing and implementing. These are all important steps towards ultimate autonomous driving, but FSD is still a long ways off.

 

I find all of the above discussions very interesting and puzzling as well. I watched a video U tube showing real time automatic braking for cross trafic and pedestrian crossings using several autos including the above and a Mercedes. Every vehicle stopped within a safe distance without hitting or running over the pedestrian except the Kia and Hyandai .......the latter two ran right thru and over.....it was unbelievable. !!

 

Suggest you check out this AAA study. Only car that could be considered "passing" this automatic braking test is the Toyota. Tesla Model 3 performed very poorly. Unfortunately, they didn't test any Korean brands.

 

Hi.....your AAA study is totally different from the one I mentioned. This U-Tube video is fascinating and funny at the same time.

 

Some of them clearly have some work to do.

 

Hate to say it but this needs government regulation to force all auto manufacturers to offer properly working automatic braking as standard on all cars - just like seat belts and air bags. It's especially important in recent years as more drivers operate their vehicles while distracted by their phones or in-car infotainment screens. The tests show that even non-luxury brands can do this correctly so there is no excuse.

 

??? I have not had a problem with my 12V battery . What is going on with yours?

 

Thank you for the links. I have not heard of this in the Niro thread , so it might be Kona specific...or it might be since fewer Niros have sold, we just aren't seeing this particular failure in any numbers.... Yikes.

 

It's not Kona specific. Lots of people with dead eNiro 12V batteries in the UK forum and elsewhere.

 

Odd how it impacts some vehicles but not others. FOD maybe?

 

Vehicle not starting
Discussion in 'Kia Niro' started by porky,

I bet this is a Niro experiencing this problem. Has it on the trickle charger...drove it a couple of days ago, and now insufficient charge to start, detect the key, etc.