$35k SR Model 3 is gone from the Tesla site

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  1. fotomoto

    fotomoto Active Member

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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Here is Tesla's announcement: https://www.tesla.com/blog/update-our-vehicle-lineup

    . . .
    Today, we’re making some changes to online ordering to simplify vehicle choices and make Autopilot more affordable.

    All Tesla vehicles now come with Autopilot bundled as a standard feature for less than the prior cost of the option. For example, Model 3 Standard Plus used to cost $37,500, plus $3,000 for the Autopilot option. It now costs $39,500, with Autopilot included.

    We think including Autopilot is very important because our data strongly indicates that the chance of an accident is much lower when Autopilot is enabled. Autopilot also dramatically improves the quality of the driving experience, especially in heavy traffic, as thousands of our customers frequently describe online.
    . . .

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Here's the InsideEVs News report:

    "Tesla Announces Model 3 Leasing, Autopilot Now Standard"

    We'll have to wait to have this confirmed by someone attempting to buy one, but as far as I can tell, the $35,000 is no longer available for order. Tesla's press release says that going forward, all Tesla cars will have Autopilot as standard equipment, so that price will be added in to the Standard Range Model 3, which can now only be ordered at a Tesla Store or over the phone. You can no longer order the SR TM3 online; the SR+ (Standard Range Plus) is the lowest trim level that can be ordered online.

    Given Tesla's history, if they've removed the SR TM3 from the website and made it an "off menu" option only, that strongly suggests it will soon entirely disappear.

    So, if you've been waiting to get a Standard Range Tesla Model 3... better call and order it today! But likely you'll have to pay something like $37k base price, and not $35k.

     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    When Tesla sent the usual "How did we do it?" survey, I gave them high marks. Then I sent to Customer Support an 'after survey' comment that praised the Brentwood TN store staff, sales and delivery, who upgraded my order to a Standard Range Plus with the Autopilot in our original order.

    Bob Wilson
     
  6. brulaz

    brulaz Active Member

    They've also eliminated the RWD long range. Only the AWD LR and performance models are available at substantially higher price points.
     
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  8. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Well that explains the Model S and Model X refresh.

    Bob Wilson
     
  9. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    Now InsideEVs News is reporting that the base $35k Model 3 is still available as an "off menu" order. Presumably, then, it won't have Autopilot included.

    Color me confused!

    My guess is that it won't be available for long, though. In fact, we ought to form a betting pool for how soon it will disappear.
    :D
     
  10. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    I confess I don't get your point.

     
  11. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The cannibalization of the low end, Model S and X, by the higher end, Model 3 pretty well has become the Model S and Model X refresh. So Model S/X sales falloff makes sense.

    Bob Wilson
     
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  13. JJ2

    JJ2 Member

    We just bought a T-3 this week. Every time we went in, the prices were different. The red paint was $2500, then 1500, then 2000. The next day, when we brought it, it was the same 2500 it always was. These were prices they showed me, online. But it's like they are afraid to give out prices, knowing they change.
    As for the starting price - I never believed there was a $35k Tesla. They just add features, and raise the price. We were told the base price was $39,900.
    But on the invoice, It's $35,400. And another $4500 for 'Standard Range Plus Rear-Wheel Drive'. More Tesla BS! Aggrivating. They should be better than that, but I guess they have their reasons.
    We're also getting the 19" wheels. I didn't really want them, but every car that was coming our way had them. We didn't want to miss the rebate.
     
  14. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    The $35,000 base price Model 3 was available for a limited time, but (a) now it's available only as an "off-menu" order at a store or by phone. If you were told by a Tesla rep that the "base price" was $39,900, then the rep lied to you. (b) As I understand it, Tesla quite recently raised the prices slightly across the board -- some are saying that's in response to Trump's tariffs -- and the base price is now $35,400.

    Now, that doesn't include delivery fee, which as I understand it is $1200... but the MSRP quoted by other auto makers includes neither delivery nor dealer prep fees. At least Tesla includes prep charges in the delivery fee.

    However, what you got wasn't a base Standard Range Model 3, but rather a "Standard Range Plus"; thus the $4500 upcharge. Not sure why you're calling that "Tesla BS"... you really did get a better car than the base "Standard Range" Model 3, even if that wasn't your intent.

    But you do have an option! Tesla is offering a 7-day return policy. If you really think you've been jerked around, then tell them you want to return the car, and trade it for the off-menu base $35,400 Model 3. Well, if you want red paint, then there's an extra charge for that, so you still won't be getting the absolute lowest possible price on a Model 3.

    Anyway, whatever you decide, I hope you have many years of happy driving with your Model 3!
    :)
     
  15. JJ2

    JJ2 Member

    This is the invoice I received 2 days ago, when buying... (personally, I never believed there would be a $35k model).
    Yes, they charge for the upgrade. Yes, they say you can special-order the cloth model, or whatever it was going to be. Yes, the car will be much more than $35k. But that is still where the price starts, no matter what the web site says.
    I will let you all argue about this legal semantics...


    Car Price -

    Autopilot - Included

    Rear-Wheel Drive - Included

    All Black Interior - Included

    Red Multi-Coat - $2,000.00
    Partial Premium Interior - Included

    Supercharger Network Access + Pay-as-you-go - Included

    19’’ Sport Wheels - $1,500.00

    Model 3 - $35,400.00

    Standard Range Plus Rear-Wheel Drive - $4,500.00

    This totals $38,900‬. We were shown the base price was $39,900 - and I'm not going to ask! The rest of the prices were taxes and fees. The total was ~ $48k, minus the rebate.
     
  16. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    You can't order the (now) $35,400 base Model 3 off the website. It's an "off-menu" order only, available if you order by phone or if you visit your local Tesla Store. But they're no longer offering the cloth fabric seats; the base $35,400 Model 3 is now an electronically limited Standard Range Plus, so it will have all the same hardware and interior, altho some things (for example, some of the many speakers inside) will be non-functional. (I'm curious about the fog lamps, which were not part of the original SR package, but are included in the SR+. Are those functional on what is now the SR, or have they been disabled?)

    The upsell for $4500 for the "Standard Range Plus Rear-Wheel Drive" is the charge for getting the "Standard Range Plus" version of the Model 3, which is the cheapest version available on the website, but it's not the cheapest available for an off-menu order.

    If you choose to reject the valuable information I'm giving you, then that's on you. As they say: You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

     
  17. JJ2

    JJ2 Member

    Thanks for the 'valuable information', well know member. I understand the difference. Don't be a horse's ***!
    We are arguing about the same thing. I'll accept that you can't order a 35k online. I went to the dealer - where it WAS a 35k model - a 39.9 model with the mandatory add-on. And you can't understand that point???
    Next time you see my name - please don't reply. Like most do, on this site. Let me change that to 'argue amongst yourself.'
     
  18. JJ2

    JJ2 Member

    Our dealer had a LR RWD. But they couldn't get a price on it, and couldn't sell it. They used it for test drives. Otherwise, it would have been sold?
     
  19. Pushmi-Pullyu

    Pushmi-Pullyu Well-Known Member

    It's not mandatory. You getting upset and defensive about your buying choice, arguing on the basis of emotion rather than facts or rational thinking, doesn't change reality.

    Choice-supportive bias or post-purchase rationalization is the tendency to retroactively ascribe positive attributes to an option one has selected and/or to demote the forgone options. It is part of Cognitive science, and is a distinct cognitive bias that occurs once a decision is made. For example, if a person chooses option A instead of option B, they are likely to ignore or downplay the faults of option A while amplifying or subscribing new negative faults to option B. Conversely, they are also likely to notice and amplify the advantages of option A and not notice or de-emphasize those of option B.
    --Wikipedia: "Choice-supportive bias"
     
  20. JJ2

    JJ2 Member

    OMG - you are insane! I'm glad you have a PhD in Wikipedia. Now go away!
    Or don't go away. I blocked you.
     
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