Minimum power for CCS DC Charging

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  1. elt93

    elt93 New Member

    Hi Guys,
    I have been looking a lot at the different types of EV charging available out there and found a lot of information about everything but just have one last question that I haven't been able to answer on my own. I saw that DC CCS Type 2 Charging usually maxes out on most cars at 50kW but what is the minimum charging power? Could I theoretically charge a car at 100W using DC CCS at the right voltage (430V)?
    Thank you for your time and help!
     
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  3. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    There is a handshake between the car and the charger that limits the current as the battery approaches full charge. The car has to tell the charger what current. Sad to say, there is an SAE paper that has to be purchased to read the full technical specs. I only have the J1772 specs.

    Now if we take 100W / 430V ~= 0.25 A. I've only seen integer amps on the chargers I've used.

    Bob Wilson
     
  4. elt93

    elt93 New Member

    Hi Bob,
    Thank you very much for your answer. From what I can infer,there is not any low limit for DC charging using the CCS? It is possible to push through 1kW as much as 50kW?Thank you!
    Eliott
     
  5. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Without reading the spec or the maintenance and operation manual, I would only share the lowest I've seen is 3 A @395 VDC:
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    The last frame of two, 30 min. charging sessions at the free, fast DC charger in Huntsville, AL. So 3 A * 395 VCD ~= 1.185 kW.

    So my NEMA 14-50 outlet has a maximum current of 40 A (usable) * 240 VAC ~= 9.6 kW. However the built-in charger of our BMW i3 is power limited to ~7.2 kWh. If an efficient DC power supply feeding a proper CCS plug, we could see an extra 2.4 kW. But it would only have an advantage if the SOC is less than 90%.

    Bob Wilson
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2018
  6. bwilson4web

    bwilson4web Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Here is a short video, ~1 min., showing two, 30 minute charge sessions of a 2014 BMW i3-REx:


    Bob Wilson
     
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