Minis SE: Test Drive + Impressions

Discussion in 'Cooper SE' started by Tommy Electric, Oct 31, 2020.

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  1. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    I realise that with plenty of forum members having already taken delivery of their Mini SE that this topic might be of limited interest. Be that as it may, I'm very excited because tomorrow morning I'm booked in for a test drive of a Mini SE at my local dealership. This will be the first time I've seen a Mini SE in person, let alone driven one. Despite this, following countless hours of research, I put down my non-refundable $2k deposit months ago. With our lockdown restrictions having only recently being eased, it hasn't been possible for me to do a test drive up until now. Tomorrow I get to finally scratch the itch.

    The dealership has been kind enough to give me the test model for 24 hours. That means I'm going to have plenty of time to give the car a solid workout and also take many photos. In the next couple of days, I'll upload some of these to this thread and also give a few of my impressions of the driving experience. This will be one way of helping me pass the time until the scheduled delivery of my car in several months time.
     
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  3. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    That's great that they are letting you have 24 hours. Perhaps I should call my dealer and ask. I only did a 15 minute drive so far. Enjoy!
     
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  4. Toi

    Toi Well-Known Member

    Excellent Tommy Electric! Looking forward to your impressions!
     
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  5. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Make sure the charging cord is in the boot because you would hate to have the battery capacity limit your test miles.
     
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  6. KeninFL

    KeninFL Member

    A non-refundable deposit? A $2K non-refundable deposit! Where do you live? Is this your dealer's policy or Mini policy?
    Probably a non-issue bc you will very likely love the car, but still.....
     
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  8. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    Tommy is holding down the fort down under as our Mini member in Australia.
     
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  9. Lainey

    Lainey Well-Known Member

    Curious to hear your thoughts on it once you get to drive!
     
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  10. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    24 hours is much more than I thought I'd get so I'm pretty happy with that. Seeing that lockdown restrictions have only just eased in the last week or so I suspect they're not getting a lot of customers coming through the dealership and can afford to be without the test car for a day.

    I'll be sure to do that. My driving is all going to be city-based but I'm definitely planning to charge at some point just to satisfy my curiosity. By the way, you call it a "trunk" not a "boot", correct?

    Already noted above but, yes, I'm in Australia. Note that $2,000 AUD is about $1,400 USD but it's still larger than the $500 deposit US buyers were asked to put down. I'm also extremely envious of the range of customisation available to US buyers. We only had the Iconic/Level 3 option available and in one of four colour options. Such are the problems of being located in a small and distant market...

    I'm heading over to pick up the car in about an hour. Very excited.
     
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  11. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    It's a tough call whether to use British terminology vs American terminology because sometimes using British terminology is perceived as being a bit pompous. I railed for a year against the unnecessary, unaerodynamic, fake "hood scoop" installed on the MINI Cooper SE. The British refer to it as a "bonnet scoop." So I call it a hood scoop when complaining on US forums and a bonnet scoop when complaining on British forums. A week after taking delivery of my SE, I had a body shop install a scoopless hood, so my car has neither.

    However, I find "boot" to be a good way to differentiate between the rear storage area of a hatchback and a sedan, so I use that word even though I realize a sedan's trunk is also called a "boot" in Britain. Am I correct in assuming that Australia follows British automotive terminology?

    I placed my refundable deposit 50 weeks before my SE was delivered. I am impressed that your conviction that the MINI Cooper SE is the car for you that you would place a $2,000 non-refundable deposit and pay a higher price for the car than I did. During my 11-month, 2-week wait, I worried that I had built up the car so much in my imagination that it could never live up to my expectations. No problem, because it did live up to my expectations. Two months later, I'm still amazed by the capabilities of my great-looking, great-handling, quick, little SE.

    Have a great day in that SE! In your report, please tell us how much of the 24 hours was allocated to sleeping.
     
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  13. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    That would be correct.

    Putting down the deposit was preceded by extensive research into the car and its capabilities as well as a lot of careful consideration about what my needs were. Despite that, yes, there was still some hesitation in putting down a substantial, non-refundable deposit for a car I'd never seen let alone driven.

    Thanks! As tomorrow is a public holiday the dealership has given me two days (ie. 48 hours) to test drive the car! I've already put 110 km on it today and plan on taking it out again this evening. Everything is positive so far so no regrets about the deposit!
     
  14. Lainey

    Lainey Well-Known Member

    Hood vs bonnet and trunk vs boot. Every non Mini car gets hood and trunk. Mini, even in the USA uses, bonnet and boot. So it's bonnet stripes and scoop and boot handle and the service or warranty info was described as bonnet to boot (that was covered changed in 2017). So here you will see me talk bonnet and boot. In person it's the same - my Mini gets bonnet and boot but every non-Mini is hood and trunk. It's kind of just a Mini thing. If you see many other Mini owners in the USA using those terms, it's because that's how it was all described to us by the dealers. That said I have zero clue what the manuals say at this point. I'll dig my current out to see how often bonnet and boot are mentioned.
     
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  15. GvilleGuy

    GvilleGuy Well-Known Member

    I actually like the look of the non-functional bonnet scoop, but I absolutely agree with you that it should not be a big deal to re-arrange the manufacturing to add the non-scoop bonnets as an option! They are right there in the same building.
     
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  16. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    The fact that execs in Germany, Britain, and the US ignored my pleas to pay $1,500 to get the less-expensive hood makes it clear how rigidly they're sticking to their trim-package configurations.
     
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  17. Lainey

    Lainey Well-Known Member

    Mini has severely cut back on the number of options to pick from and what levels you can pick it. Supposedly to keep costs down. So not terribly shocking that they said no honestly. A few years ago when there were so many options it was ridiculous I'd have been shocked.

    I am a fan of the bonnet scoop but I have it on my current S. I get why you didn't like it though. It is all for show.
     
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  18. I only did a 45 minute drive so far on Saturday. It's just amazing:cool:
     
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  19. insightman

    insightman Well-Known Member Subscriber

    Welcome to the forum! How long after people in Norway order a MINI Cooper SE does it take before delivery? If you get one, you may want to add your info to the spreadsheet some smart people on this forum have set up. It would be interesting to learn what trim packages are offered in Norway, too.
     
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  20. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    I've just returned the SE after my two days of test driving. I'll try to organise my notes and photos in the next day or two and post something.
     
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  21. All manufacturers have been forced to restrict the range of options since each variation has to go through the WLTP mandatory test cycle. I waited nearly 10 months for a VW T-ROC back in 18/19 because of the huge backlog in testing cars with multiple different options. Crazy, but true.
     
  22. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    A long read and lots of photos for those looking for some non-election related reading material.


    I had this car for a full TWO DAYS of test driving; possibly the world’s longest Mini SE test drive? The dealership was initially only going to give me 24 hours but later realised that the next day was a public holiday so told me to bring it back on the following day instead. I’ve already got a Mini SE on order so I guess they were feeling generous.

    Over the two days I drove a total of 223 km. All my driving was in the Melbourne metro area. I’d say that 15-20% was highway travel (80-100 km/h) with the remaining travel being stop-start urban driving. Since the recent loosening of Covid-19 restrictions in the city, traffic has been pretty busy and is close to what it was prior to the pandemic. Weather over the last few days has been beautiful; clear and sunny and approx. mid-to-high 20’s centigrade (70-80s Fahrenheit for my American cousins). Perfect driving weather.

    The test vehicle was a Midnight Black Metallic variant with energetic yellow mirrors and accents with the 17” Powerspoke Wheels. We don’t get a choice of trim levels in Australia but the Australian version has all the features of the Level 3 / Iconic minus the sunroof.

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  23. Tommy Electric

    Tommy Electric Active Member

    Midnight Black was one of the colours I considered when ordering my car. I ultimately decided against it but I think it goes nicely with the energetic yellow accents. The powerspoke wheels, however, aren’t my thing. When I first saw photos of these wheels I wasn’t impressed but I was willing to keep an open mind until I could see them in person. Now that I have, my initial opinion hasn’t changed. The asymmetrical look just doesn’t do it for me and I’m glad the car I ordered has the 17” Tentacle Spoke wheels.

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    As owners of black cars can no doubt attest, while stunning when clean, black really shows dirt, even after only a couple of days of driving.

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    Note that this is my first time driving an EV and, indeed, my first time driving a Mini. I’ve organised my impressions using different sub-headings below:

    Driving Feel and Experience:

    - The car feels solidly built and has a high-quality, sturdy feel. Steering and suspension are also reassuringly firm. Others have described this as "sporty" and I agree with that.

    - The most fun I had driving the SE? Switching to Sport Mode and hitting the pedal on highway on-ramps. Looking in the rearview mirror you see the cars behind you disappearing. Just make sure you use both hands! Torque steer is a thing. So much fun and I’m smiling just thinking about it.

    - The SE corners like a demon. Another highlight of the test drive.

    - Although I enjoyed using Sports Mode on the highway stretches, most of the time, Green Mode is more than adequate for city driving. Once my car arrives, I might think about using Bimmercode to see if Green Mode can be selected as default as I did most of my driving in that mode.

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    - It only takes a little while to become accustomed to regenerative braking and, once you do, one pedal driving in the city is a pleasure and reduces the stress of urban driving.

    - I also really liked the anti-roll lock that engages when you come to a stop on a hill. Coupled with the regenerative braking, this gives you another reason to not use the regular brakes.

    - I can’t really comment on efficiency as it took me a little while to figure out how to access the trip computer and I was more focused on exploring the car rather than providing an accurate test of battery and range. As such, I was frequently using the AC, the HK stereo system and other features without worrying about battery usage. To properly test efficiency and range I would have had to control driving conditions and that wasn’t how I wanted to spend my limited time with the car.

    - The indicator lights (turn signal lights) have two modes: slight tap for lane change (set to 3 “clicks” in my car) and the regular indicator lights which continue until you turn or tap the indicator back to its starting position. At the end of two days driving I still hadn’t mastered the two different modes but liked the system.

    - Auto LED headlights are great and very convenient. I also really liked the ring indicator lights / signal lights surrounding the headlights which flash when turning. I can't recall seeing this on any other car.

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