Modifications and Tweaks

Discussion in 'Hyundai Kona Electric' started by electriceddy, Mar 10, 2019.

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  1. I haven't taken a really good look at it yet but I've been pondering weather stripping.
     
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  3. KonaTom

    KonaTom Well-Known Member

    So, if I get a scratch I can visit You??
     
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  4. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    Brake lights do not go on at AUTO REGEN setting, either. Haven't tested Level One or Level Two yet. Of course, the car in Norfolk, England (on the video) may be slightly different from cars come to Canada recently.
     
  5. The brake lights go on.
     
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  6. Kitsilano

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    All Kona Electrics coming to western Canada recently come with Nexen tires. These are low quality tires. For your personal safety, swap them out immediately! Driving occasionally in snow, I installed Nokian WRG4 All Weather tires, same size as original Chinese tires. Very happy with my Nokians, which I'll use year-round. Same road noise (maybe less), same range (maybe more), and definitely better handling and better acceleration, especially noticeable in rain & snow. Still poor braking---the car is heavy and there is no brake feel. As an old autocross and track driver in high performance cars, I know how important tires are to handling and road safety: I recommend selling Nexens (if you can!!) and getting good All Season or, depending on your winter-driving habitat, All Weather tires.
     
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  8. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    That's very good news. Thank you, Wildeyed.
     
  9. CJC

    CJC Well-Known Member

    We had Michelin CrossClimate tires put on before we took the Kona EV home (they are all weather too). Love them. We had 2 or 3 snow falls with about 20 to 30 cm. of snow and they were dandy on the hills etc. Great traction. Hubby had Nokian's on his SUV and loved those too. We have not had any luck selling the Nexen.
     
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  10. BlueSal

    BlueSal Member

    Thanks. Autocross driver here too. The OEM tires are rubbish IMO.
     
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  11. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    Happy to hear you have Michelin CrossClimate tires, CJC. Apparently you learned, as I did, that Hyundai dealers will find reasons not to buy unused or barely used Nexens.
     
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  13. My nephew is a tire guy and posted this the other day about tires that can come on non-premium cars:

    "It's been common practice since the early 90s for tire manufacturers to supply lower quality versions of their leading nameplates for OEM use.

    Beware any tires on new vehicles with suffixes like A20, B686, or any other combination of alphanumeric branding AFTER the manufactured title model.

    For example, Toyo builds a very strong tire under the model name "Open Country." This tire, depending on AT/HT or MT spec will deliver very good mileage. However, a Toyo "Open Country A20" is built specifically for OEM application and delivers roughly 50% worse wear rates than their premium product available from tire dealers. (Tire dealers have access to the OEM variants as well, so buyer beware. Make sure you're getting the premium product and not just asking for "whatever it came with.)"
     
  14. After washing the car with the hose directly at the charge port door, there was evidence of water from the top (like lots) so I put a piece of cheap weatherstripping like you suggested. Will try later after detailing to see if it makes a difference (just a test get better stuff later) it measures 1/4 inch thick by 3/8 inch wide and conforms to the curvature of the door without putting any strain on the screw latch which holds the door locked.
    The side door seals work really well with minimum moisture inside the jambs after the spray test.
    Only drawback is after entering the crawlspace under my house to turn on the outside water, I found out the shut off valve is leaking.:oops:
     
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  15. brulaz

    brulaz Active Member

    "same range (maybe more)" with an All Weather tire? They do have the triple peak and snowflake symbol, no?
    One of our concerns with EVs is the winter range, and I was assuming that an All Weather tire would decrease it.
     
  16. While I have no trouble believing the quality of the OEM tires is less than the best I think calling "safety" into question is a bit of a stretch. The OEM tires are designed to maximize range. Like all "e" tires, road noise, breaking and wear resistance are secondary. I'll use mine for a couple summer seasons, rotate with my winters, and in two years when their tread is going I'll buy some better quality summer tires. There's no way I'm chucking brand new tires on principle.
     
  17. Brennan Raposo

    Brennan Raposo Well-Known Member

    100% with you on this. I'm definitely not chucking out perfectly acceptable tires on principal. Especially with the amount of driving I do, I go through tires dater than I go through underwear lol. I'm more than happy to pay anyone $100 for their set of 4 tires if they're looking to get new ones. Will even pick up around Ontario or figure out shipping. I can't even get used crappy tires with 50% tread for $25 per tire ahah
     
  18. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    I'll deliver my 4 Nexens with 900 smooth kilometers on them to anyplace in the Lower Mainland west of Abbotsford in exchange for $200. The buyer will suffer my brief description of what happened after a greedy dealer of a well-known Japanese brand sold me a 'certified used car'---300hp BMW 135is--- with new Nexens on it. No one was hurt, but it's a cautionary tale.
     
  19. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    I only drove the Nexens for 900 km before I could get the Nokians, so comparing the effect of these two sets of tires on range is difficult, considering that weather and road conditions differed before and after the switch. But during the brief times with fairly similar conditions I did not notice any significant difference in range. The difference in car control was VERY significant.
     
  20. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    Our beloved Kona Electric, no matter how shod, suffers from understeer and poor braking. In emergency situations, cheap tires make these matters much worse, of course. What to do? Some would spend extra money on new snow tires (and new steel rims) for winter safety and drive the OEM Nexian All Season tires during summer. Others would spend $800 on good All Weather tires driven year-round. (That's assuming they find someone who will give them $200 for their Nexens.) I'm arguing for the All Weather tires option. I will not tolerate unnecessary (even if only summertime) dangerous understeer and long ABS braking distances. It's a matter of priorities: what do I value more, $800 or the lives of those I share the road with?
     
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  21. Kitsilano

    Kitsilano Active Member

    EVs lose range during cold weather because of the effect of temperature on chemical reactions. Tire-type is a small, maybe insignificant, part of the equation.
     
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  22. brulaz

    brulaz Active Member

    My only experience is with an ICE and full winter tires (not just All weather), and there my difference is about 12%
    But much of that is prolly the ICE, fuel composition, and All Weathers should have less effect than the full winter tires as well.

    So maybe just a few % difference, as you say.

    Personally, I would switch to All Weathers asap just so I don't have to go through the bi-annual ritual of switching and storing shoes.
    An annual rotation, preferably done for free at the Canadian Tire shop, is about all I want to deal with these days.
     
  23. CJC

    CJC Well-Known Member

    I am basically on board with your thoughts. I think the Nexens are not necessarily a safety concern per se as in having defects, but they are a cheap tire that certainly doesn't perform as well as my all weather Michelin tires. I would always want a good quality tire on my cars, and our choice of the Michelin CrossClimate tires was one of our better buys. Driving with the Nexen tires would always leave a little doubt in my mind especially on a long trip. I would not feel totally safe and at ease with them, but that is a personal opinion. My Nexen tires are in my garden shed as so far I haven't been able to sell them even listed at $100 for all four brand new so that says something.
     
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